It seems to us that the Norse have no intention of forfeiting their absurd claims, be it over the territory of Normandy or any other land. In the absence of good faith from the Norse it appears that any peace involving the same Norse is not acceptable. As to the French and Carthaginians, now that the issue regarding French acceptance of non-aggression has been resolved, and in line with our previous statements. Austria is prepared to accept a repatriation of French lands and the terms of the peace treaty should the Norse, and all terms relating to the same, be excised from it.
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ooc: clearly you have never heard of feeding the chooks (chickens) Nuke.
The Norse are doing dialogue with France over the issue. The 'forfeiting claims' is absurd regarding the Austrian claimant over France, hence why we are making a alterative counselling with them as oppose to the dogmatic policies of Austria. As for Wales and England we remind the Austrians that during their plotting to invade France (which afterwards would involve a attack against Carthage) that it was they who claimed we sought take England and Wales from the French, even though we had no focus on Wales and where hoping that if we had taken it during the attack we would have traded it with Austria for Normandy. Of course Austria decided to forgo any co-operation with the Norse, which leaded us to see the errors of our ways and the great errors of the Austrian crusade when we realised that our defence pact with Carthage was more honourable and Austria's disregard for our intent for neutrality (to the point of forsaking their defence pact with us) clearly showed that they do not care for Norse regards to keep out of their friends disputes and for the neutral sovereignty of the Norse. We only mention England as we talked about Normandy because of our then anger of being used as a tool so that Austria could gorge itself in France, while denying us a slice of the cake.
Still the clear fact is the White Peace is not a peace that cares about silly 'forfeits' that make slander of Norse policies (especially with our recent desire to talk with France over the possibility of giving the Normans some devolved autonomy within France so they can practice their faith and culture while being in France) suggests that Austria is looking for a way to continue the war, committing to be a savage destroyer of the Norse. We only attacked the Austrians with Carthage to counter the growth of the monster.
Now: the White Peace is clear in what it is and forfeits towards claimants are attempts to dodge the basic premise, especially as the Normandy case would involve us denouncing the Normans. Instead we purpose a alterative which will allow the Normans to be regarded as Norse but also as French citizens, while we remind Austria that Wales was not on our 'claimant list' and England was a claim handed to us by Austria; in other words a claimant to get us into war with France. Since England and Wales are owned by Hispania it is also hence not Austria who we should be speaking to and even if Hispania spoke they would hear us speak that England was Austria's promise and hence the Conference talks regarding the matter was simply plain response to Austria's gorging. We are hence regarding Hispania not part in spawning aggression between Austria and the Norse.
Normandy was the prime interest and as shown by our dialogue with France we may be able to organise the issue while allowing France to govern Normandy and Brittany.
So.. there is basically no reason why Austria should continue the war other than their aggressive desire to attack those of other ideologies and faith, the latter regarding past reports they made.
In the end the only thing stopping Austria from accepting a White Peace is a narrow viewpoint that views Normandy, Brittany and other parts of France as not French but Austrian. We think hence that forfeits would be a violation of French sovereignty, fitting regarding Austria's dislike of France's sovereignty with the whole invasion thing.
Still; we talk in argument but peace is on the table. Take it! Accept the White Peace and status quo so that we may sign a peace treaty. As stated we did not press claims on England and Wales they were claims set by Austria on 'our behalf' and we even said we had little interest in Wales, England only fantasied over territorial management but already have York somehow set within the Scottish areas which was our prime desire, not London. Normandy is hence our only claimant and has demonstrated with our devolution plan it might come so unassay and Carthage's likely defence pact with France will further ensure we will respect a non-aggression pact with France.
So.. there goes Austria's argument that we are 'claiming Wales and England' while we found a solution to the Normandy issue. Remind me who is wanting war again Austria? The White Peace has its place now.
