Is Britain about to leave the EU?

[Arakhor]

Gosh, no one could have predicted that!

 

[Takhisis]

University courses are very expensive indeed, if "only" because you need to pay all the staff and maintain all the buildings and grounds. All that specialist equipment would hardly come cheaply either.

This is why the humanities are, yet again, a superior study.

Looks like I have reasons to keep hating the EU.

Could you please elaborate?

 

[uppi]

This is why the humanities are, yet again, a superior study.

Not really. Even for experimental scientific research, the staff is still a major part of the cost. The equipment is usually not that expensive and the equipment the students are allowed to get their hands on is even less expensive (especially since they're either cheap, free, or might even pay for it, so you can just let them build stuff).

 

[innonimatu]

Could you please elaborate?

They managed to twist the walloons into dropping the opposition to CETA with a lot of back-stage pressure and a public worthless (not really enforceable) adendum to the treaty.

 

[FriendlyFire]

Looks like I have reasons to keep hating the EU Belguim (aka Sideways Germany).

Fixed !

 

[innonimatu]

Fixed !

The problem with the EU is its institutional structure, it's not about any one single country. Not even the Germans, who just happen to be the ones most visibly playing the hegemon within it. The EU would still be inimical to democracy if they were not part of it.

 

[Takhisis]

Looks like I have reasons to keep hating the EU Belguim (aka Sideways Germany).

Fixed !

Inno will be portrayed by Michael Caine when we do the live-action adaptation of his biography.

 

[FriendlyFire]

So a soft brexit ?
Or UK government will subsidies the car market if there is a Hardbrexit ?

Nissan super-plant pledge hands Brexit boost to Theresa May

Nissan plans to turn its Sunderland car factory into one of the biggest car plants in the world, producing two new models, after winning “support and assurances” from Theresa May about Brexit. The agreement with the government will safeguard the future of more than 7,000 jobs and delivers what will be perceived as a major boost to the economy following the referendum.

a proposal to offer state aid. The prime minister’s deputy official spokesman said: “The assurances are that we will get the best possible deal. There was no special deal for Nissan.”

The Guardian understands the government has privately told executives in the car industry that it is confident the sector can retain tariff-free access to the single market

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...n-super-plant-hopes-for-tariff-free-eu-access

 

[Yeekim]

The problem with the EU is its institutional structure, it's not about any one single country. Not even the Germans, who just happen to be the ones most visibly playing the hegemon within it. The EU would still be inimical to democracy if they were not part of it.

Seeing EU stormtroopers savagely drown dissent in Wallonia in blood has surely been a sad sight.
They say Liege burned for seven weeks after Charles the Bold set it on fire, but this doesn't even begin to compare.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Yeah, the Eu is a great help. Wait till it is your turn again to be annexed by Russia or rendered something bleak under Germany, before caring about other EU countries ruined as direct result of this "union".

 

[Yeekim]

Sigh. I do care. I just honestly don't get this anti-EU attitude.

If you hate being part of it so much, why don't you leave with the British? Or if you don't trust your government to take action, why not leave yourself?
Free non-EU countries Albania and Macedonia are straight across the border, after all.
Unlike another Union I have some memories from, both countries and citizens are actually free to leave this one.

I'm not saying EU is perfect. It might actually be bad for Greece for all I know. Maybe those 113 935 million you have received over your own contribution since you acceded hasn't been enough to make up for it.

But how about you stop acting like this is some evil plot you are powerless to disentangle yourself from? I have heard arguments from innonimatu against EU. I don't agree with most of them, but at least he has made them and I kind of see where he is coming from.
I don't remember you ever providing anything on that topic beyond a stream of unsupported accusations and petulant whining. Sorry for being frank, but that is how it has come off.

 

[Kyriakos]

It's ok Yeekim, i'll attribute it to your bias.

 

[Yeekim]

Being but a human, I likely have some. As do you yourself.
That shouldn't stop us from having a reasoned discussion.

I gather you think there are countries "ruined as a direct result of this Union" and that Greece is one of them.
Do you think Greece should leave? If so, why don't you?
Or do you think the EU should be reformed? If so, how?

 

[Snerk]

So CETA is being signed today? https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[Silurian]

but it will most likely take another two years to be finally settled.

From The Guardian

""There are still several more chapters in the stop-start drama over the European Union’s comprehensive economic and trade agreement (Ceta) with Canada. The lifting of the Walloon veto clears the way for 28 EU governments to sign the treaty, allowing it to come into force on a temporary basis.

But 38 national and regional assemblies will have the final say on whether the treaty becomes a permanent legal document. It is a story that is likely to have implications for EU trade policy, but also for post-Brexit Britain.""

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...learn-from-the-eu-canada-ceta-trade-deal-saga

 

[Arakhor]

We've had enough of experts though. Any indications to the contrary are just fearmongering, right?

 

[Flying Pig]

Equally, you could take heart that it might be much easier to negotiate deals with non-EU countries from outside rather than within the EU.

 

[Arakhor]

What do people make of Theresa May's reassurance to Nissan that they will not be unduly affected by Brexit? Why does a car company get to know more about Brexit than either Parliament or the electorate? How can she even begin to make that assurance in the first place?

 

[Kyriakos]

What do people make of Theresa May's reassurance to Nissan that they will not be unduly affected by Brexit? Why does a car company get to know more about Brexit than either Parliament or the electorate? How can she even begin to make that assurance in the first place?

I suppose she hasn't reassured her husband's bank.

 

[Cheetah]

She's basically promised Nissan that the British taxpayers will cover any costs if they lose money on their investment, and in return they've agreed to keep all the current jobs there.

Losing jobs would look bad, you see.