That doesn't contradict what I was implying. The US has been arming the Ukrainians prior to Trump. Officially or unofficially does not change that.
Change in scope does not change the fact that we have been giving them stuff to use against the Russians. If you want to limit yourself to what was officially provided, feel free, but you're pretty naive to do so.
Whatever. If you want to keep changing the definition fine. But that is not what I claimed.
The US never provides anything unless it is reported by your professionals. Keep believing that. Pretty Naive.
I'm not endorsing anyone. The ME is a seething cesspool of hate, money and weapons that has been breeding animosity for many, many years. By removing US troops from the area, Trump will allow the Turks to go to war against the Kurds. The US has supported the Kurds and kept them safe as an entity. The Turks want to take them off the board as a player.Is that an endorsement of Bush 2's invasion of Iraq? Cant let them brutal dictators stay in power sounds like one of the reasons for the Iraq War, that would make Bush 2 one of the best Presidents we've ever had. Yemen started on Obama's watch during the Arab Spring and he sold weapons to the Saudis too. How is Trump helping Turkey destroy the Kurds? Israel-Palestine is Trump's fault?
Wait, "we started arming the Ukrainians under Trump" is not really compatible with "Trump is a Russian puppet"
Putin must be very confident that Trump will either be re-elected, or that his Democratic successor while uncritically maintain what is, apparently, a self-evident grift. Is it not more plausible that Trump's personal admiration for Putin is simply insufficient to overwhelm decades of institutional commonsense in the American intelligence and diplomatic apparatus?It could be. Escalating the war means more opportunity for profiteering and land grabs.
Remember, this is Putin and Trump we're talking about. They will eagerly trade lives for money and power.
Are you claiming that the US has never offered arms under the table to any government?
I'm not endorsing anyone. The ME is a seething cesspool of hate, money and weapons that has been breeding animosity for many, many years.
Yeah. Unless those lower form humans can evolve like we have and put old grudges aside there will never be peace.
9/11 forever! Never forget!!!
Actually Trump can be Putin's witting or unwitting agent while Congress has its own power structures who go along with it because four years of the Donald will mean twenty years of packed courts and meanwhile they'll just get obscenely rich and shaft the poor anyway; Russia itself is far from monolithic. As I posted in the Brexit thread when swatting down innonimatu's strident anti-imperialistic support for the Conservative Party, such apparently contradictory stances are quite common: Putin will work with anyone who can weaken and destabilise rival powers, and it's not as if these arms sales were the equivalent of sending in troops.Wait, "we started arming the Ukrainians under Trump" is not really compatible with "Trump is a Russian puppet"
Yeah every year on September 11, I think about the terrible days of the Terror in '92 when those anti Capet thugs stole the French Blue gem (now Hope Diamond) from the Royal Storehouse in Paris.Yeah. Unless those lower form humans can evolve like we have and put old grudges aside there will never be peace.
9/11 forever! Never forget!!!
Why do you think the Arabs would prefer a Wal-Mart to the Hebrews?I think if we were serious about finding peace, the first thing we would do is bulldoze all of Jerusalem, dump the scrapings into the Mediterranean Sea and put up a Wal-Mart.
With luck both would boycott the place.Why do you think the Arabs would prefer a Wal-Mart to the Hebrews?
What war? NATO used no ground troops, and the Libyans were engaged in their own civil war at the time.
i think that if Jerusalem was removed from anyone's thinking, it would be a big step to getting along. Step 1 remove it completely. Step 2 make its former location an unattractive place, divorced from ME culture. Keep in mind that I am making these comments as a culturally iconic Notre Dame burns and makes us all sad. So that raises the question: is peace better than having culturally rich places like Jerusalem around? That might depend upon where exactly one lives.You haven't specified whether that would be good or bad luck, Mr. B-J.