The point you keep refusing to acknowledge is that this is a thing that conservatives do. And then they can't take it when liberals also do it. So the whole of your posts in this thread are just more examples of hypocrisy.
Jon Stewart is to blame for Trump.
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The point you keep refusing to acknowledge is that this is a thing that conservatives do. And then they can't take it when liberals also do it. So the whole of your posts in this thread are just more examples of hypocrisy.
Source? I know casual contempt for the intelligence and informedness of millenials is so ingrained in public discourse that it apparently warrants no support anymore, but that's certainly not my experience.
Timsup2nothin
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Mine either. A lot of people who got information from multiple sources talked about the Daily Show more than their other sources. That doesn't mean they didn't have other sources.
@Cheetah...thanks, but that is a miserable thankless job if done right and an outright sin if done wrong.
jackelgull
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I'll be honest, while I do get a lot of my news from John Oliver, I do also open up the Foreign Policy Journal and Huffington Post from time to time
Well, I read the NYT, the other Times (the original one) as well, the Graun, Japan Times, etc. on a rotating basis along each week, and still find Drumpf and the caudillos from South America he emulates to be completely ridiculous pathological liars with a big side order (great 'Murican expression) of narcissism.
I acknowledged that mainstream conservatives (and Fox News) do have a big hypocrisy problem. I just think that it's unhealthy to focus entirely on them, and to ignore liberal hypocrisy.
Dude, what? What are you even saying?
...stop listening to Jon Stewart, OK? You'll learn how to make arguments again.
http://fusion.net/story/47387/jon-stewart-leaving-daily-show-millennials-audience/
I've seen it mentioned in other places I can't recall.
Huffpost isn't exactly what I call reliable, but I just searched for Foreign Policy Journal and the notion that anyone could call this news leaves me speechless. It looks like Infowars with leftists.
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I'm reviving this thread to ask a different question that has recently occurred to me, but also concerning Jon Stewart and Trump. I think that's better than starting a new thread.
Do any of you think that, if Stewart hadn't retired, he'd somewhere along the line have had a takedown of Trump that really served to derail Trump?
I know that Trump supporters aren't Stewart watchers--quite the opposite, that they regard Stewart in the way that the OP suggests: as smugly dismissive.
But for all that, mightn't Stewart somewhere along the line have framed up Trump's buffoonish behavior in such a way as to really help people see him for the buffoon he is?
I'm thinking about this in connection to the debates. Hillary will likely approach them as debates; Trump will likely approach them as a show. I think there's some chance that his approach may well prevail in our entertainment-dominated culture.
But might a counter-showman have found the right way to counter-program against showman Trump, in a way that none of the politicians has been able to?
Is Stewart to blame for Trump--in choosing to retire at such an inopportune moment?
Do any of you think that, if Stewart hadn't retired, he'd somewhere along the line have had a takedown of Trump that really served to derail Trump?
I know that Trump supporters aren't Stewart watchers--quite the opposite, that they regard Stewart in the way that the OP suggests: as smugly dismissive.
But for all that, mightn't Stewart somewhere along the line have framed up Trump's buffoonish behavior in such a way as to really help people see him for the buffoon he is?
I'm thinking about this in connection to the debates. Hillary will likely approach them as debates; Trump will likely approach them as a show. I think there's some chance that his approach may well prevail in our entertainment-dominated culture.
But might a counter-showman have found the right way to counter-program against showman Trump, in a way that none of the politicians has been able to?
Is Stewart to blame for Trump--in choosing to retire at such an inopportune moment?
No. A large portion of US public opinion was already rotten no matter what. Critical mass has been gathered by Faux News, Rush, Beck, Hannity et. al. over the years regardless of what the ‘liberals’ did.
It's like a security blanket, this idea that you just need 'the right takedown' to get rid of Trump. He's been taken down a thousand times on every form of media.
Before Cruz dropped out you couldn't go a week without some article on why Donald Trump was slipping. Is it too much to ask for a little introspection from liberals? Any self-doubt at all?
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Is it too much to ask conservatives not to nominate Donald <snip> Trump for President? Apparently so.
sophie
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I'd say Bee, Oliver, Colbert et al have been doing a more than adequate job of eviscerating Trump's character in Stewart's absence. So I don't think it has anything to do with that.
FriendlyFire
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I blame Obama
You know what the spineless democrats are like, and how good Republians are at winning elections through any means, no matter how low. The GOP are very good at tapping into there base and use wedge issues saddly they work well.
On the Dem side, Clinton with her baggage wasnt the best choice, a lot better then the Republican clown car, Each mistep is eroding her position which is strange given that each Republican mistep dose nothing, GOP can do no wrong.
Either way the Republicans are finnished win or lose
As my only news source, hell no. But I watch it every day. I also watch Telesur, which is how I managed to realise how similar Drumpf and South American caudillos are earlier than the average citizen.
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Lohrenswald
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no single comedian has that much political power, I'd wager
Yes, when I lived at my aunt's house for six months without access to internet. I just had a television, and the only English channels were Fox News, Nat Geo, and British MTV (which because of my time zone played actual music during the day).
Thanks for the reply.
I was in a similar situation, except reversed.
As all know, am a Catholic Conservative
Before settling in Thailand I worked world wide and the only news channels were BBC and CNN. Settled in Pattaya and the cable had CNN and BBC, Then moved to Naklua and my cable has FNC and BBC.
Before I finally got FNC I found CNN and BBC were liberal, FNC is fine.
The point is, I've watched both for extended periods and have something to base my opinion on, unlike some who base their opinion on what they hear on social media and youtube clips.
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It bears noting that this in no way supports your assertion that an unreasonably high proportion of millenials ever got their news exclusively from The Daily Show. It doesn't say that anyone got all their news from The Daily Show, and says that less than 1 in 5 had their political views shaped by it. Considering how much of the overall population has their political views shaped by moronic things like religion or pop culture, I'd call that a win for millenials.
