Liberals Protesting Democracy

[civman110]

*UPDATE: Now they're rioting. Things have turned violent. (Dozens of videos in the link)
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...e-declare-riot-third-day-anti-trump-protests/

Liberals are now protesting the US election results throughout many major cities and on college campuses. Protesting the results of an election is protesting against democracy, which is one of the basic tenants of our country. If you don't accept the results of an election really you're saying that you don't believe in democracy. Many are also turning the election results into a racial issue, which it's clearly not. Many minorities voted for Trump. I can understand people being upset after losing an election, but this kind of a reaction isn't an appropriate one.

I don't think the left is going to accept the fact that the citizens of this country voted for a republican house, senate, and Trump as their president to choose the next several supreme court justices. If they are reacting like this now and Trump hasn't even taken office yet and began setting policy, then I see no way that this isn't going to get much worse.

The left is going to deepen the racial divides in this country and polarize everyone even further, rather than accept the results of our election and admit that they are wrong about some things and that people who do not agree with them have just as much of a right to participate in our democracy and have their voices heard as they do.

There's also at least a dozen videos included in the link along with many more photos.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...sts-emerge-new-york-chicago-blocking-traffic/

 

[PhroX]

Liberals are now protesting the US election results throughout many major cities and on college campuses. Protesting the results of an election is protesting against democracy, which is one of the basic tenants of our country. If you don't accept the results of an election really you're saying that you don't believe in democracy.

Or, alternatively, you don't believe the election was democratic....

 

[Tahuti]

For good or ill, we have to accept the results for what they are, regardless whether the US - or any other country for that matter - is a democracy or not. Screaming about it won't help.

 

[civman110]

Or, alternatively, you don't believe the election was democratic....

The election was democratic.

 

[Commodore]

Or, alternatively, you don't believe the election was democratic....

The problem with that, is the loser always believes the election was undemocratic...because they lost. That is why the loser's opinion about how fair or democratic the election was is usually to be dismissed out of hand as the losers just throwing a toddler-like tantrum because they didn't get their way.

 

[whyidie]

Just look at those signs!

"Love Trumps hate"
"Together we are not the minority"

So polarizing! So anti democratic!

 

[civman110]

Just look at those signs!

"Love Trumps hate"
"Together we are not the minority"

So polarizing! So anti democratic!

Not accepting the results of an election is undemocratic no matter what you put on a sign and it is polarizing because basically what they are saying in that everyone who voted for Trump doesn't have a right to participate in our democracy.

 

[Commodore]

Just look at those signs!

"Love Trumps hate"
"Together we are not the minority"

So polarizing! So anti democratic!

How about the one that says "Trump is not my president"? That seems pretty divisive. Whether or not you voted for him, he is your president now. I said prior to the election that I would oppose any Trump supporters that did not accept the results of the election despite my distaste for Clinton. The same applies now to these Clinton supporters who can't seem to accept their defeat.

But this post right here shows the continuing hypocrisy of CFC. You all ran Trump and his supporters through the ringer for making claims that they would not accept the results of the election, yet now you are praising Clinton supporters for not accepting the results of the election. You are all the classic "I only support democracy when it works for me" types. Grow up CFC.

 

[civman110]

How about the one that says "Trump is not my president"? That seems pretty divisive.

Or the ones that say "Make Bigots Afraid Again," "Grab a Pitchfork," "Run for the Hills," and the people lynching a Trump effigy outside of Trump Tower.

There was also worse than that too, but I didn't post it because the people burning stuff doesn't seem to be what the majority of liberals protesting democracy are doing at the moment.

 

[whyidie]

You all ran Trump and his supporters through the ringer for making claims that they would not accept the results of the election, yet now you are praising Clinton supporters for not accepting the results of the election. You are all the classic "I only support democracy when it works for me" types. Grow up CFC.

Where is the praise ?

 

[Commodore]

Where is the praise ?

Do you condemn these protests?

 

[PhroX]

Not accepting the results of an election is undemocratic no matter what you put on a sign and it is polarizing because basically what they are saying in that everyone who voted for Trump doesn't have a right to participate in our democracy.

If the election is not democratic it's not undemocratic to reject the outcome.

 

[Commodore]

If the election is not democratic it's not undemocratic to reject the outcome.

But the election wasn't undemocratic, therefore protesting it's results is undemocratic.

 

[KmDubya]

The younger generation not being able to accept winning and losing At least they haven't started looting yet, I mean for me any way nothing screams "I'm against injustice" as looting the Best Buy

Gotta blame their parents and their idiotic 'everyone gets a trophy', 'not keeping score in sports', and being a 'special snowflake'

Better to have taught them how to lose with grace, how to 'cowboy up' and how to pick themselves up and get back at it. Trump won fair and square. If these people want to change that they need to get involved and pick better candidates.


PS I gotta say I am enjoying the pessimism and anger that has manifested itself in so many liberals throughout the world. Really I'm finding it hard not to smile all the time and the great guys posting here have really come through in making me enjoy this more than I should. So keep up the great work, it has been appreciated

 

[PhroX]

But the election wasn't undemocratic, therefore protesting it's results is undemocratic.

In this case that might well be true. However the OP made a general point that to object to the results of an election is undemocratic, which is not the case if the election itself is not democratic.

 

[civman110]

PS I gotta say I am enjoying the pessimism and anger that has manifested itself in so many liberals throughout the world. Really I'm finding it hard not to smile all the time and the great guys posting here have really come through in making me enjoy this more than I should. So keep up the great work, it has been appreciated

Well, since Trump ran the left was calling him a Nazi. Not only does that kind of rhetoric make Nazis look not so bad when you use that term where it doesn't apply, but for weak minded people it also justifies any level of extremism toward Trump and the people who voted for him.

Liberals are really pessimistic because they lost and they know they lost badly. Many were living in this bubble where they honestly thought that anyone who disagreed with them was some sort of "ism" and a fringe loony that they were going to mock and rule over forever because that's what the media and their leaders all told them and they ate it up. I don't like arrogance and that kind of elitist domineering and condescending attitude, so I must admit, I'm enjoying the results more than I probably should as well.

 

[whyidie]

Do you condemn these protests?

Its a civvman thread. I barely read them much less click the links. I go in with the intent to get a rise. He likes it. He wants to be outraged. Odd bird.

I don't think the following is appropriate for this post and it could be removed by mods as its mostly RD and violates the terms of a civvman thread, but here you go :

Are there liberal loons ? Yes! Are some of them in these crowds ? Surely!

Are these folks all saying the same thing ? Not from the few pictures I've seen in the OP.

At best its a show of solidarity. At worst (with exception of nutters of which I'm sure there are some there) its a refusal to accept reality and understand why you "lost", in which case get used to it because it'll happen again. I suspect all those birds are in that flock.

So its a bit of a rorschach test really. If all you see are crazies, I'd offer you are no better than the ones you accuse.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Protesting is a legitimate democratic action. Stop demonizing your political opponents OP. Your hate is the reason why our political process has become so divisive and ugly. You're the problem, not the protestors. They can voice their displeasure all they want.

Having said that, I can't help but wonder how many of these protestors actually voted. Although voting is made so easy in California that I have to think that most of them did in fact vote.

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

I am getting the feeling these "liberals" are quite out of touch with reality. Just 5 cent worth of observation: you have been living lately in the world where freedoms of societies globaly has been diminished through waging campaigns against a self-created artificial enemies. The so-called liberal agenda has been superficial thing used to manipulate and limit operative actions of wider societies for the very opposite the word liberal stands for.

 

[warpus]

Protesting is fine and a part of the democratic process, but lynching an effigy of the president elect is way over the top.

These protesters would be a lot more effective if they took their collective disappointment and energy and directed it at the Democratic party which let them down.