Libyans storm American consulate and murder Ambassador

[Borachio]

What! I was just replying to that and you've deleted it. Poof! Gone up in smoke.

Something about how you couldn't bear to see any more beautiful innocent Muslims blowing up in smithereens, yet you wish for deaths of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of Americans to meet the same fate by Divine Retribution.

Bah!

And how about Syria? I notice NATO forces are standing well clear. I suppose this must be more imperialistic plotting to commit more murder and mayhem.

But, friend, tell me please, why you hate me?

 

[Neomega]

The problem with arguing with conspiracy theorists...

What's my conspiracy theory?
That all western mass media parrots the same NATO schlock to justify mass murder under the guise of war?

And if you're going to stick around on these forums you need to be less hysterical and stop calling people idiots and talking about your penis size.

The penis size thing was in response to someone who was obviously trolling. I figured if we were going to have a wang-waving contest, no need to use double entendres etc.

I can't even tell what your avatar is supposed to be, I'll change my avatar when I feel like it.

Well, I think Iran has enough hate as it is. Don't know why you feel compelled to pile on more.

Now, why do you hate me, again? Have I missed your reply?

I dunno, do I hate you? Your posts sure have been typical of a brainwashed media parrot.

OMG, Ghaddafi had FEMALE bodyguards!! OMG!! CRAZY CRAZY!! KILL EM! KILL EM!
I bet it's like, a video game, you can , like try to shoot them, but they are really quick, cuz they are chicks, and like, I bet they can throw knives, and cool stuff like that.

And where did it say in Tehran times that Gaddafi was killed by NATO bombs?

Are you funny? Wait, let me find the quote you quoted.....

Ghaddafi was one of thousands killed by NATO bombs, bullets and rioting.

Now, I intentionally put "bullets and rioting" in there, because I knew you would probably try to troll if I had just left "bombs" alone. (afterall, I am approaching 11,000 posts here, I've played the troll game with a stooge or two once or twice on these boards before)

But, I think, even if I hadn't, I think it is still safe to say, that without NATO bombing, Ghaddafi would still be alive today. But either way, your funny is fail.

 

[Farm Boy]

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Violence is the last tool of incompetence. It's true when Amurrrika does it, it is still true when violence is wished in return rather than usefulness. If dreams of death and destruction are the limits to the breadth and span of your thought, then I believe you are correct - rational discussion has little to no room to exist between us.

 

[downtown]

Does this thread deliver or what?

 

[Farm Boy]

Does this thread deliver or what?

I think it has +5 interwebz written all over it.

 

[NovaKart]

What's my conspiracy theory?
That all western mass media parrots the same NATO schlock to justify mass murder under the guise of war?



The penis size thing was in response to someone who was obviously trolling.



Well, I think Iran has enough hate as it is. Don't know why you feel compelled to pile on more.



I dunno, do I hate you? Your posts sure have been typical of a brainwashed media parrot.

OMG, Ghaddafi had FEMALE bodyguards!! OMG!! CRAZY CRAZY!! KILL EM! KILL EM!
I bet it's like, a video game, you can , like try to shoot them, but they are really quick, cuz they are chicks, and like, I bet they can throw knives, and cool stuff like that.

Your conspiracy theory is that all western media is lies and manipulation and everyone except you knows nothing. Pretty hysterical. You sound like you're squirreled away in a bunker.

The avatar is just a joke, get over it.

 

[Neomega]

Violence is the last tool of incompetence. It's true when Amurrrika does it, it is still true when violence is wished in return rather than usefulness. If dreams of death and destruction are the limits to the breadth and span of your thought, then I believe you are correct - rational discussion has little to no room to exist between us.

Violence is the end of a bully, and the only language it understands.

Your conspiracy theory is that all western media is lies and manipulation

Yes, but that's not conspiracy, it's fact. As I challenged the other guy, name one mainstream, western news agency that is not a NATO lapdog. Name one that shows the daily killed and wounded from NATO bombs. Name one that even dared utter that perhaps America did have 9/11 coming. Name one. Name one that seriously discusses American foreign policy. Name one that asks if Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, not whether they are building one or not. Name one that asked if Saddam should have been allowed WMD's, not whether he had them or not. NAME ONE.

and everyone except you knows nothing.

No, luckily, I have found many friends and family that know what is up.

You sound like you're squirreled away in a bunker.

So what if I was? Next do I get to hear the cliche about a tin-hat from you?

The avatar is just a joke, get over it.

Yeah, just a joke about one of the countries seemingly universally hated. A sign of a guy really eager to fit in. "Hey let's all hate on the unpopular guy! That'll get you acceptance, huh?"

"Oh boy, I better not say anything controversial, I better not even think anything that could get me ridicule... I know, I'll just hate on Iran... yeah, that'll mean friends!"

 

[Leoreth]

OMG, Ghaddafi had FEMALE bodyguards!! OMG!! CRAZY CRAZY!! KILL EM! KILL EM!
I bet it's like, a video game, you can , like try to shoot them, but they are really quick, cuz they are chicks, and like, I bet they can throw knives, and cool stuff like that.

Do you really think you're making a compelling argument like that, or do you just like the sound of your own voice?

 

[Farm Boy]

Violence is the end of a bully.

It is the end of many things, including those who are not bullies. Or wasn't that your point?

 

[Borachio]

I dunno, do I hate you? Your posts sure have been typical of a brainwashed media parrot.

Well you certainly said you hate my guts. Which are pretty much an integral part of me.

OMG, Ghaddafi had FEMALE bodyguards!! OMG!! CRAZY CRAZY!! KILL EM! KILL EM!
I bet it's like, a video game, you can , like try to shoot them, but they are really quick, cuz they are chicks, and like, I bet they can throw knives, and cool stuff like that.

Never liked shooting people, even virtually. Try another stereotype.
I repeat Gaddafi not crazy. Just very very very eccentric. And not even slightly benevolent.

Now, I intentionally put "bullets and rioting" in there, because I knew you would probably try to troll if I had just left "bombs" alone. (afterall, I am approaching 11,000 posts here, I've played the troll game with a stooge or two once or twice on these boards before)

But, I think, even if I hadn't, I think it is still safe to say, that without NATO bombing, Ghaddafi would still be alive today. But either way, your funny is fail.

Notice that no land based NATO forces were involved. Or have you any evidence from who knows what your sources are?

Funny? Nay, not me. I'm trying to listen and understand you. Who knows? Maybe you have something worth saying beneath all this abuse. It is possible.

But tell me, if Gaddafi was so popular, how did any NATO forces manage to dislodge him with scarcely a boot on the ground? The machinations of the West are undoubtedly malevolent, but is it possible they managed to alienate so much of the Libyan population against Gaddafi?

I repeat: And how about Syria? I notice NATO forces are standing well clear. I suppose this must be more imperialistic plotting to commit more murder and mayhem. Or is it simply there's no oil in Syria?

 

[NovaKart]

Violence is the end of a bully, and the only language it understands.



Yes, but that's not conspiracy, it's fact. As I challenged the other guy, name one mainstream, western news agency that is not a NATO lapdog. Name one that shows the daily killed and wounded from NATO bombs. Name one that even dared utter that perhaps America did have 9/11 coming. Name one. Name one that seriously discusses American foreign policy. Name one that asks if Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, not whether they are building one or not. Name one that asked if Saddam should have been allowed WMD's, not whether he had them or not. NAME ONE.


No, luckily, I have found many friends and family that know what is up.



So what if I was? Next do I get to hear the cliche about a tin-hat from you?

So because they don't put graphic photos of dead people, support Iran and Saddam Hussein and think America had 9/11 coming that means they're NATO lapdogs? Normally when you say something is a fact you might want to back it up with some evidence. You think just because someone doesn't have your hysterical America is evil ideas that they don't discuss foreign policy seriously.

And, do you have a tin hat?

 

[Neomega]

Do you really think you're making a compelling argument like that, or do you just like the sound of your own voice?

Umm, you haven't figured out the answer to that yet???

But tell me, if Gaddafi was so popular, how did any NATO forces manage to dislodge him with scarcely a boot on the ground? The machinations of the West are undoubtedly malevolent, but is it possible they managed to alienate so much of the Libyan population against Gaddafi?

By destroying his army with superior airpower, and then arming a bunch of rebels and using tribal conflicts and a whole lot of money and promises of oil revenues to only a certain few.

People flee losing causes. And fighting NATO airpower with Ghaddafi's army is a losing cause. And I don't think we can quite yet call Libya a done deal. It will take decades to know whether the people of Libya are better off... ..or even have some kind of government that isn't a harsh theocracy. I seriously doubt it will be any kind of secular state, socialist like Ghaddafi's, or capitalist colony as hoped by the architects of his overthrow. Whatever happens, I know it will not have been worth the bloodshed.

I repeat: And how about Syria? I notice NATO forces are standing well clear. I suppose this must be more imperialistic plotting to commit more murder and mayhem. Or is it simply there's no oil in Syria?

I missed your repeat.
Syria has the cover of Russia for now, but the media villification campaign has certainly been in full force, and is powerful enough. If Russia steps aside, Syria is sure to be bombed too. Thousands more will be killed, and the ignorant masses of the west will again pat themselves on the back.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

1. That's cool, but it's better to ignore people like Neomega than engage them. I made the same mistake out of boredom.

2. You shouldn't do that

3. I don't like doing that because of political disagreements. America takes all sorts! USA #1

Yeah I know. He reminds me of someone from another video game forum. He's not worth my breath or my typing time but I'm to stupid to stop coming here to listen to his lies.

If a nation or peoples is threatening you, or your loved ones, or bent on world domination or enslavement, you have the right to protect yourself.



Is now a western tool, (Qatar et al) and so far the only mass-media you mentioned.



Have not read enough of it, so I don't know.



And you call me delusional. PLEASE.

The rest are blogs, the ones I do know you are talking about , are mostly just Democratic Party cheerleaders, who are silent when the murder happens under Obama's watch.



Of course they wouldn't. They don't want to offend the delicate senses of the western readership.



Well it certainly is going to make a few people richer, and a whole lot of people poorer. Qatar is coming up roses in this one.

Oh, it also is going to make a whole bunch of people dead and maimed, let's not forget THAT cost.



No, my native nation is the most powerful nation in the world, and it has used that power for great evil and death. A blight upon the history of humanity. A nation claiming to be born of freedom, yet one of the last to outlaw slavery. Built on slavery and broken treaties. Most proud of itself for defeating the aggressor Axis nations in WW II, yet blind to the fact that it is now the aggressor nation.

But it was cute to see your American Islamaphobic bigotry and ignorance reveal itself.

"oh geeze, he dun like us killin' dem moslems much... mus' mean he'z u moslem himself!!"





I'm not trying again. Is my writing style in any indicative of any diplomatic gestures?



Not everyone, just the vast majority. Yes, I have cut from my life all the zombies. Only awake people am I still friends with.



This isn't about serving the poor and down trodden. It's about stupid people gleefully committing murder, patting themselves on the back, but then crying when a white version of themselves is killed.

When I sleep at night, I pray for the retributive justice America deserves. Even if I must die with my countrymen. I pray there is God, because I want the vengeance he claims is his to be laid.

I cannot stand any more deaths of those beautiful, innocent people in the middle east who have done little more than be in the way of the plans of imperialists. Muslims do not deserve what they are getting, the bombs should be falling on American heads, and in American hospitals and schools. Americans are the bringers of war, they should be the ones forced to suffer its consequences.

If there is a god, he is either highly unjust, or his wrath is going to surely be Armageddon. Funny thing is, even if there isn't a god, Armageddon is still surely on its way.

I'm a bigot? Look at you! Islam is so peaceful right? 19,515 terrorist attacks since 9/11? Yup. People from every religion have been killed in these attacks including fellow Muslims. They hate us so bad they... kill each other and you saying we responsible for their civil wars?

 

[Joecoolyo]

Maybe when it happens to your country, it will be more evident how true this is, until then, it's just a video game to you freaks.

Yes, I'm sure if Obama decided to descend upon my neighborhood with the army gunning down everyone in site I would want those with the power to stop it to stand idly by and watch.

And I like the idea that I'm a freak for thinking this!

Go to Libya and proclaim your love for the Jamahiriya and see how long you last.

Does this thread deliver or what?

To be honest, I'm surprised by how much more fun it's gotten. The Tin Foil Hat Brigade can really uplift bad threads.

 

[Yeekim]

I repeat Gaddafi not crazy. Just very very very eccentric. And not even slightly benevolent.

My slight trolling before aside, I must confess that illustrating his eccentricity by mentioning "female bodyguards" right after "death sentence for jumping red light" seemed rather weird.

 

[ELITEOFWARMAN8]

Maybe when it happens to your country, it will be more evident how true this is, until then, it's just a video game to you freaks.

You need to seek help in RL man.... it's a video game forum you whining on!

 

[Borachio]

@Yeekim
Did it? Sorry about that.

There was actually some logic to the red light thing. Gaddafi said that it was simply to discourage people from jumping red lights. And there had never been any need to enforce it, because, naturally, no one had jumped a red light. Sledgehammer - nut.

Having all female bodyguards isn't eccentric? They were supposed to be sworn to lifelong celibacy. It all added up to a very strange personality cult.

 

[del62]

The best thing is it is in the tavern, ppl like me don't have to worry about the constraints of the chamber, we can just get stuck in, it is like a bar room brawl

 

[Neomega]

So because they don't put graphic photos of dead people,

No, they'll memorialize dead NATO soldiers, they'll mourn dead NATO soldiers, but dead Afghans or Iraqi's, nobody even knows how many have died, really. Media won't report that.

support Iran and Saddam Hussein

Wait, wait, wait, what? Support? I just said, they aren't even asking questions of sovereignity, they are framing the debate so the obvious answer is we must kill them. AND THEY ALL DO THIS. No western media station asks, "should Iran be allowed ot have nuclear weapons?" It is a simple, and legitimate question, yet none of them ever, ever ask teh question.... ...why?

and think America had 9/11 coming that means they're NATO lapdogs?

Yes... ...because it is not that they don't espouse these views, it is they don't even ask the question. They frame the debate, so that the consumer of the media comes up with the answer they want... and that answer is war.

You think just because

Just because? No No No. You make your argument sound stronger by saying it's "just because" but that is not what I am saying.

someone doesn't have your hysterical America is evil ideas that they don't discuss foreign policy seriously.

No, but if you want to discuss foreign policy seriously, the question, should Iran be allowed ot have a nuclear weapon should at least be asked, and it is not.

And just as well, Should Saddam have been allowed WMD's, even nukes, should have been asked, and was not. Do you suppose the muslim world noticed that all these countries with nukes and WMD's keep trying to keep them from having nukes and WMD's?

Do you suppose they notice that they are getting bombed, especially the countries without nukes?

Should these questions not seriously be asked in discussions of foreign policy, before deciding to kill thousands, if not tens, hundreds of , or even millions of people?

So why aren't they asked?

And, do you have a tin hat?

Do you think a not-funny avatar making fun of Iran will gain you acceptance here?

 

[Yeekim]

@Yeekim
Did it? Sorry about that.

There was actually some logic to the red light thing. Gaddafi said that it was simply to discourage people from jumping red lights. And there had never been any need to enforce it, because, naturally, no one had jumped a red light. Sledgehammer - nut.

Having all female bodyguards isn't eccentric? They were supposed to be sworn to lifelong celibacy. It all added up to a very strange personality cult.

Oh, nothing to be sorry for. Didn't know about all-female or celibacy part, so that clears it up.