LINESII- Into the Darkness

Well, I'll need to read the whole thread either way.

I'll need to consult Iggy if I want to create a new nation or rebel...and Kalmar is not really my cup of tea (even though tea is damn awesome). The rest of the NPC's are either completely unstable, have no army, are dirt poor, or all three.

So yea, Iggy, I'm pming you with some questions soon :p

btw, did I get the post that made this the NES with the highest postcount? How ironic! :lol:
 
make your own damn country, you feel more of a connection if you came up with the culture (unless you cop-out like most people)
 
Congratulations, Iggy. LINESII now has more posts than any other NES thread, EVER.

Azale said:
Hmm...what is the best NPC left to take in this NES?

Or should I just make my own nation?

Make your own nation. The only NPCs are the two Gamorreas (both very weak), Kerania (weak), Verta (somewhat weak), Kalmar (somewhat weak) and Skilv'so (very weak).

Oh, and Svitzerland, but that's a vassal state to Swade.
 
Svitzerland is the size of a single city too :p
 
hmm, on that note Iggy, Verta is Pretty much compleatly Free of Emor's contol. There is the Millitary Port on the Island Of Vertis, and the fact we get to read their Forign Diplomancy and Recomend Actions. but in truth, we won't interfeer with them if they chose to ignore our advice. Like for Example, we have no stance on the Swade Vassle Stae to their north and are in noway allied to it. what they chose to do in regaurds to it is up to them.
 
For the record, radical elements of Davar exist who willingly volunteered to destroy the CRA. Some less-radical people are doing it to help their families thrive. The majority of the population don't really care about the CRA, as ~Darkening~ said.

Svitzerland is the size of a single city too
Exactly the size. 12 pixels in area.

Anyway, I think this thread's due to be closed soon. So the next update will be in the new thread. I'll also do awards for LINESII- Into the Darkness- Part 1.

I'm temporarily delayed from my updating by JD's insistence that I send orders for his NES. You can punch him for delaying the update 15 more minutes if you want. :p
 
Lets wait until this present war is resolved, then start a new thread. Incidentally, if you want I could make a summary of the "history so far" later on, though I do not promise a lack of bias. ;)
 
The simple thread performance issues will condemn this thread sooner or later; once the mods spot it, anyway. It's the biggest ever. You can't have everything. :p
 
To celebrate the occasion:

Lord_Iggy 917
Silver Steak 597
Thlayli 446
Kal'thzar 377
Kentharu 358
jalapeno_dude 289
alex994 261
Swissempire 222
~Darkening~ 193
andis-1 155
emu 146
das 130
erez87 124
Contempt 98
Cuivienen 94
TerrisH 83
Wubba360 75
Azash 74
Swiss Bezerker 49
MjM 41
Cleric 40
soul_warrior 37
Disenfrancised 30
conehead234 29
The Farow 23
Luckymoose 16
1889 15
justokre 15
Imago 14
The Strategos 13
Finmaster 13
Symphony D. 11
North King 10
tommy_toon 7
IronMan2055 6
Metaliturtle 5
Erik Mesoy 4
Silvara Thirrol 3
Azale 2
Turner 2
Dachspmg 2
ThomAnder 1
Dreadnought 1
Insane_Panda 1

I particularily celebrate the fact that I somehow managed to make so many posts - much more than some people that have been in this thread far longer than I. Fear me.
 
Luckymoose said:
*sends a punch his way*
You guys should praise me, for consistently sticking to a 2-day update schedule!
 
i better get 1st place in something iggy!! or i will iggy punch you! *shakes your fist at you* GOT IT!

EDIT- notice how the three greater powers are at the top, with iggy, the lord thy god (except for contempt)
 
@Azale & Iggy - Maybe when Iggy starts Part II, he could have a new continent discovered or some such nonsense that has a bunch of barbarians with transient "empires" on it, but the new contact with civilization prompts the people on the coast to begin organizing and form the first lasting civilizations on that continent, or make the first leap from nomad to settled. Assuming you were doing some sort of BT in between. Or it could just be a random event. Just a thought

Either way, I'm not done reading through the updates, but on the proposed new continent, I'd like to be one of the coastal peoples who can begin organizing from a tribal system (say, with one strong ruler pulling them together... not that I've done that in any other NESes...). Stats below, up to you, Iggy, whether you like the idea, my nation, or anything I have to say. :p (And excuse me if I write my idea sort of into my description, change it around as you see fit)

Tir Tairngire (Land of Promise)
Cities: Semi-permanent meeting place that will evolve into/function as capitol - Murias
Leader: Chief Connall Cernach
Religion: Animism
Government: Tribal Council
Economy: 2- 2/0
Population: To be determined by me
Army: To be determined by me
Navy: None
Education: None
Technology: Copper Age
Confidence: Tolerating
Culture: None
Wonders:
Description: The Tuatha (which simply means "people" in their tongue) are a fierce warrior peoples, as are many of their neighbors. While they live in a land of constantly warring tribes, the wars are typically short and decisive. One tribe will defeat another and will extract tribute in the form of slaves, women, animals, or primitive goods. Wars are usually matters of honour and prestige, never has any tribe seriously considered conquest an outcome of war and as such their entire society has been held back. Strongly resembling the Celts of Northern Europe and particularly the British Isles from our world, they care little for trade or technology, thus far content with the status quo. Some more ambitious leaders have sprung up of late, as a result of contact with other peoples. The Chief of a particularly powerful tribe has led a fragile coalition of the more advanced tribes towards the coast, setting up a monthly tribal council where disputes of honour are settled man to man, rather than the destructive use of armies. Armed with foreign weapons (traded for influence, maps, and raw goods), a warrior tradition, and ambitious leadership, will the Tuatha end their internicine warfare and become a unified kingdom? Or will Chief Connall become one in a long string of salient yet transient leaders?
 
Look, I don't care if the current war is unresolved... It's simply a matter of thread size. Besides, the war may solve itself this turn. And waiting another turn would DEFINITELY make this thread too large.

@LittleBoots- I don't believe it. You just nearly perfectly described one of the secret countries I have made. You've got it. I'll put it in the update.

This'll be a very interesting update.
 
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Yessssss. Great minds steal a bike and whatever.
 
The Evil Scroll, or the "Scroll of the Evil Ritual", is a very short, cryptic account of a very infamous incident - the Evil Ritual, also known in those times as the Sacrifice on the Trondash. Both the ritual itself and the scroll are very similar in their dubiousness and unclarity; for instance, none of the expeditions to find the river Trondash ever succeeded, and there is no other evidence of its very existance. It is completely unclear who was the author of the Evil Scroll. His name was not even mentioned in Toghol's decrees, usually very detailed. Most importantly, it is unclear - and very much unlikely - that such a ritual actually took place. Even with the flourishing of semi-heretical philosophies in that time, and the alleged embracement of an eschatological blood cult by the First Toghol-King, this ritual itself seems extremelly improbable and smacks of hostile propaganda. But that latter allegation is unapplyable towards the Scroll, which with all seriousness PRAISES it - not entirely unlike "the Most Evil Man in the World" of Aghol-Chronist. But while Aghol-Chronist was soon elevated and otherwise patronized by the First Toghol-King, the "Scroll of the Evil Ritual" was banned, and only barely survived destruction due to a second copy (but for all purposes it might be considered an apocrypha).

This ban was considered by some radical academic circles to be proof of the reality of the ritual. People have pointed to such facts as the tradition of sacrificing cattle in ways akin to the ones in the Scroll before major campaigns; some also have mentioned other accounts of human sacrifice in the days of the Thirty-Second Cecil-King, when as indeed mentioned Oratheism entered general decay and disagreement, with a variety of movements often-deliberately opposed to the Church appeared. Admittedly it does not seem unlikely that, had he lived longer, the First Toghol-King would have seeked the support of just such a movement, for during the war with the Shalamari he had often deliberately fought tradition and traditionalism in all spheres - from military and political to economical and cultural, seeking "purification by fire" and "general reinvigoration". Having finally ruined his previously-excellent relations with the church, the First Toghol-King would have probably overthrown and forcefully reformed it given time, as he did with the present aristocratic system.

However, it would probably be wiser not to treat the Scroll as a report of real facts, for while there is no real proof that it is not so, neither is there any proof that the rather unlikely incident described therein actually happened. At the same time, one must not dismiss this text as useless and senseless. Whether as an account of an actual, incredible fact, or as an early precursor of malicious propaganda of our own times, or, lastly, as a simple curious document revealing the soul of a desperate nation in struggle against improbable odds, this document is of much interest to us all. Therefore:

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"Scroll of the Evil Ritual", anonymous.

1. By the Twenty-First Year of his reign, the First Toghol-King's plan had entered a crucial phase.
2. On the one hundred twenty-seventh day of that year, he had already gathered most of his new army, and so sent it to the River Trondash.
3. It is not merely on the battlefield that wars are won; far more important is the preparation for the battlefield.
4. To that moment the First Toghol-King's soldiers were already levied, and their weapons were already forged, for with ill weapons one can conquer little.
5. But far more important than weapons is the soul, and it was not yet forged and molded into the fitting shape.
6. Likewise, the First Toghol-King needed to correct the Great Balance, as for evil to become all the stronger, and thus for war to be bloodier and the enemy's defeat more horried.
7. Thus he had ordered that five of the most innocent and good people in our land Gerber be gathered on the River Trondash.
8. Such were rounded up by the wisemen of Trondash, whose assistance the First Toghol-King had sought for the Evil Ritual.
9. The first, a little boy, was burned alive by the wisemen to appease God Fire.
10. The second, a brave and noble man, was strangled by the wisemen to appease God Air.
11. The third, a virtuous old woman was buried alive by the wisemen to appease God Earth.
12. The fourth, a young priest, was killed by the First Toghol-King himself, who cut him in such a way that all blood soiled the ground, appeasing God Death.
13. The fifth, a young woman, was forcefully impregnated by one of the wisemen, but let go, and thus God Life was appeased.
14. Throughout all this, the warriors struggled against themselves and the orders; but those who tried to interrupt the ritual were killed on spot, and thus God Death was the most appeased of all the gods.
15. None have struggled against themselves as much as the First Toghol-King, who barely constrained himself from crying, or from ordering an end to the ritual.
16. Yet he defeated himself and what little good remained, and at the end smiled contently.
17. For the greatest victories are won before the battle, and with this ritual, he had won four victories at once.
18. Firstly he had appeased all the gods, whose assistance is of value in battle.
19. Secondly he had changed the great balance further in the favour of Evil, for while Good must be strenghthened by killing of the vile and commitance of good deeds in times of peace, the opposite is required in times of war.
20. Thirdly he had enforced disciplinne in the ranks of his soldiers, and forced them to kill all pity and mercy in themselves - for at war, these things are useless.
21. Yet none of these victories were as decisive and as important as the fourth; for the hardest enemy to conquer is he himself, the enemy that the First Toghol-King had defeated.
22. Now he had cleansed himself of all that is good and human, and killed his conscience that might have held him back with concepts of honour, mercy and pity.
23. Freedom of conscience is the greatest value on the battlefield - for free of it, the First Toghol-King had enabled himself to commit all the vile and dishonourable deeds possible.
24. And in this manner, he gained a decisive advance over his still-human enemies and allies alike.
 
Can I expect the update tomorrow at around 7 AM iggy? :(
 
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