scy12
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Actually that is the truth. But .... Even if they did change it , you would become used to it pretty soon.
As you are all one country , it is easier to accept such terms.
Map of America - The Midwest
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Actually that is the truth. But .... Even if they did change it , you would become used to it pretty soon.
As you are all one country , it is easier to accept such terms.
Idaho, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona.
Huayna Capac357
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I'd say that ND, SD, NE, KS, MN, IA, WI, IL, MI, IN, OH, and MO are in the Midwest. In short, I agree with the US Census definition.
THe midwest is Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and maybe northern Arkansas and Oklahoma. The Northern Plains are Minnesota and the Dakotas.
Ohio and Indiana are not midwestern. Maybe Ohio valleyish?
As to why it is called the midwest, I wonder if that has something to do with it being a bit south and west of the old "Northwest Territory"
Ohio and Indiana are not midwestern. Maybe Ohio valleyish?
As to why it is called the midwest, I wonder if that has something to do with it being a bit south and west of the old "Northwest Territory"
Yeah, why are Ohio and Michigan in the US anyway?
Anyone who doesn't think Ohio is in the midwest is kidding themselves.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
We should rename is Sutherland, just for kicks.
Huayna Capac357
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Very clever. A reference to "Does this look like southern Scotland to you" ?
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
No, it was a reference to "Ask an Economist."
Trajan12
Deity
I have lived in the following Midwest cities in this order.
Chicago, IL
Dayton, OH
Erie, PA
Lansing, MI
Columbus, OH
Exciting life. All of these cities are very much The Midwest in terms of culture - Columbus and Lansing a bit moreso than the others. Chicago is too big, so these medium size capital cities (include Indy, Madison, WI) serve as the benchmark of what it means to be in The Midwest.
Culturally, The Midwest border does not follow state lines.
For instance, the border on the eastern side needs to sneak all the way up the lake Erie coast, a bit into NY for sure. I would probably draw a curved border straight through the middle of Rochester, Pittsburg, Youngstown, and Cincinnati, as everything to the south and east of those cities is... something else that is definately not The Midwest culture. Appalachia extends into Ohio, so the cultural border of The Midwest does not even include all of Ohio.
Chicago, IL
Dayton, OH
Erie, PA
Lansing, MI
Columbus, OH
Exciting life. All of these cities are very much The Midwest in terms of culture - Columbus and Lansing a bit moreso than the others. Chicago is too big, so these medium size capital cities (include Indy, Madison, WI) serve as the benchmark of what it means to be in The Midwest.
Culturally, The Midwest border does not follow state lines.
For instance, the border on the eastern side needs to sneak all the way up the lake Erie coast, a bit into NY for sure. I would probably draw a curved border straight through the middle of Rochester, Pittsburg, Youngstown, and Cincinnati, as everything to the south and east of those cities is... something else that is definately not The Midwest culture. Appalachia extends into Ohio, so the cultural border of The Midwest does not even include all of Ohio.
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
With any Map of America, I only see two shades. Red States and Blue States.
IL = WI = MN = IA = IN. If it wasn't for the Mississippi, no one would know where IL ended and IA began.
Edit: I made Appalachia too big on the western side.
Double Edit: Obviously there aren't two northeasts... It was right the first time I did it, it just looked like crap.
Cheezy the Wiz
Socialist In A Hurry
IL = WI = MN = IA = IN. If it wasn't for the Mississippi, no one would know where IL ended and IA began.
Edit: I made Appalachia too big on the western side.
Double Edit: Obviously there aren't two northeasts... It was right the first time I did it, it just looked like crap.
You made Appilachia too far East, too. And the NE come too far South. I would have put the western part of Maryland (from Frederick Co. west) in Appalachia, the part of Maryland from D.C. across the Annapolis in the NE, and then the rest of Maryland, Delaware, and the Northern Neck of Virginia in the South.
Indiana isn't part of Appalachia at all....and only the southeastern corner of Ohio is, starting from Newark (40 miles or so east of Columbus). Cleveland, Philly and Columbus are certainly not part of Appalachia, and as far as I'm concerned, Cincinnati is part of the South.
I could included Indiana, but I'll never include Ohio in the Midwest. Unlike the rest of the midwest, it is just too darned populated for one thing. Take a drove from Columbus to Cleveland. There is hardly any "country", it's all suburb, comparatively speaking to other midwestern States.
Ohio is less populated than Illinois.
And there is a TON of country between Columbus and Cleveland...there is a ton of country EVERYWHERE. The rural vote outstrips that of the Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati in basically every statewide election too.
Downtown, you recently drove through Missouri, right? How would you compare Columbus to Cleveland to, oh, Kansas City to Columbia? The times I have driven through Ohio, I've always been struck at how dense it is compared to Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, and even Missouri.
