Oruc
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She's taking advantage of you, tell her to get a job but continue taking steps to protect what's yours. This situation seems like it's about to go tits up.
Morality of Financial Domination
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I'm sure the statistic is a reflection of preference rather than an absolute. But the point stands that if women prefer taller men, taller men have a better chance of procreating.
Now that I think more about though, I don't know enough about genetics to say how much you height genes are is tied to your gender... If a tall man has children with a short woman, their genetic markers for height will not necessarily tend to stick with their respective genders... or will they?
BTW, In the US 5'10" is average as well.
Do you think that most men would find a 6'6" man too tall to be attractive? I am thinking most men who like men would prefer them tall. Or did you mean a you would not want a 6'6" woman? Because I think the article means men when they say 6'6"...But if you did mean woman, then why not? Do you agree then with my argument that society is prejudiced against tall women? Or did you mean if you were a woman you would find 6'6" man too tall? Or maybe you are a woman... if so then forget all that
warpus
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Do you think that most men would find a 6'6" man too tall to be attractive? Or did you mean a 6'6" woman? Because I think the article means men when they say 6'6"... Or did you mean if you were a woman you would find 6'6" man too tall? Or maybe you are a woman... if so then forget all that
Heh, no I can see why it would be confusing. I'm gay. I'm trying to think of how tall 6'6 really is. I wouldn't want to date Yao Ming but I think he's closer to 7ft.
Tigranes
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Oh, wow. I hope it is safe in Kurdistan.
Yea Yao Ming is 7ft 6in (2.29 m).
I x-edited my last post to ask a question, but in case you missed it... Do you find that gay guys prefer taller and/or larger and/or more muscular men (like women) or is there a different aesthetic taste at play? I wonder if the traditional perceptions bleed over into same sex relationships or if they are just a hetero thing?
Yeah it's safe. I'm not open about it and I don't act stereotypically but also I don't really live in fear that people would kill me if they found out.
I think it takes all kinds really. I prefer muscular men but the height thing isn't a problem with me. I wouldn't put the lower limit at 6ft but I wouldn't want to date someone abnormally short. I suppose this is different with 2 men because if I'm the taller one it doesn't matter but if the woman is the taller one then she feels gawky.
However, I've met some gay men who prefer feminine cute guys.
Also with the muscular there's a limit as well. A lot of bodybuilders get to the point that it's disgusting.
Well, most women settle.
warpus
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Do you say that because it's usually the guy doing the seeking, and usually the women end up standing around until somebody comes over to talk to them? Generally speaking, of course.
If not, shouldn't you say that most people settle?
If not, shouldn't you say that most people settle?
Hmmm, well maybe I shouldn't answer for Zelig but what I'm thinking is - most women would fall within a man's desired height range but most men are not 6ft or over. Actually I think most women would be perfectly fine with a man who's 5'9 , 5'10 or 5'11. I think the article said most British women are 5'4. Maybe I'm remembering wrong. My mother is 5'4 and always complains about being short, wears heels all the time and buys petite sized clothing.
Yes, most people settle, I'm saying that because we were specifically discussing the preference of women for 6' tall men. Women settle on height (among other things), men don't settle on height (though they do on other things).
Don't anybody think of asking me...Do you think that most men would find a 6'6" man too tall to be attractive? I am thinking most men who like men would prefer them tall. Or did you mean a you would not want a 6'6" woman? Because I think the article means men when they say 6'6"...But if you did mean woman, then why not? Do you agree then with my argument that society is prejudiced against tall women? Or did you mean if you were a woman you would find 6'6" man too tall? Or maybe you are a woman... if so then forget all that
After all, what do I know? If I'm not tall, obviously I shouldn't have the effrontery to have an opinion about it.
MagisterCultuum
Great Sage
Actually, male lions definitely do hunt. They are frankly better hunters than lionesses. They display superior stealth, patience, tactics, size, and strength.
What they don't do is waste their energy chasing prey over long distances of open plains in the heat of the day along with the females. Their quarry manages to outrun the lionesses more often than not anyway.
It used to be thought that the males just depended on the females, because human observers on safari usually travel by daylight and don't see the males doing much, but modern technologies like infra-red sensing drones have revealed a very different story.
Male lions are primarily nocturnal ambush predators. Their favorite strategy is to climb a tree and wait there silently until the prey passes near. Then they pounce with enough precision and force that their victims are dead almost instantly. A male lion's prey rarely has a chance to escape. When it does, the lion is more likely to climb a different tree and wait for the next victim rather than to try to chase it down.
aneeshm
Deity
Based on what you're saying about how you're letting her go further into debt, I don't think it's ethical; IMO, this behaviour is verging on emotional abuse. And given that you're aware of it and doing it consciously, I'd say that pushes it into abuse territory. Not in a legal sense, but certainly in an ethical sense. And trying to control who she interacts with is also another classic (and extremely unhealthy) sign that this is turning abusive, if it's not already so.
A good use of your position would be to build your wife up, and insist on her becoming more capable financially (and support her when she's doing so), so that both of you could eventually contribute equally to your household expenses.
Never forget that you are mortal, and you are being irresponsible in your duties as a breadwinner if you aren't trying to arrange things so that your family could survive your death. And as it stands, they'll be as close to destitute as you can get if you do.
I think you're in a no-win situation, where because of a lack of trust, both of you (apparently) feel that the only way to get what you want - or even be heard - is to have a position of dominance over the other. I'd think the most ethical course of action is to help your wife get back on her feet financially, and then divorce her.
A good use of your position would be to build your wife up, and insist on her becoming more capable financially (and support her when she's doing so), so that both of you could eventually contribute equally to your household expenses.
Never forget that you are mortal, and you are being irresponsible in your duties as a breadwinner if you aren't trying to arrange things so that your family could survive your death. And as it stands, they'll be as close to destitute as you can get if you do.
I think you're in a no-win situation, where because of a lack of trust, both of you (apparently) feel that the only way to get what you want - or even be heard - is to have a position of dominance over the other. I'd think the most ethical course of action is to help your wife get back on her feet financially, and then divorce her.
Nah, this is incorrect. First of all I am using lions as a metaphor for humans, so unless you think lions are evidence that men are naturally supposed to dominate women then there isn't any reason to debate this. However, with lions, Females are better hunters and they are the primary hunters of a pride. The male(s) in the pride stay home and watch the cubs. Males do hunt, but generally male hunters are nomads, the old weakened/infirmed males that have been usurped in their pride by younger or stronger males. Which just bolsters my point. Females are better suited to hunt, and the only time males are doing it is when they don't have the superior females to do it for them. Maybe I should have said "males are not the primary hunters" rather than "males don't hunt"... but the point is the same.
Anyway we are talking about humans not lions anyway. Do you think that the male dominating the relationship is the "natural order"? If you do, then we can keep debating about lions (as a metaphor for humans). If you do not think that men are "naturally supposed to dominate" then we agree, and debating lions is pointless.
