Gori the Grey
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Talkin' 'bout my education!
My Generation (split from Election 2024)
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And those with just a HS degree (or less) also have a lot of common traits and pretty much are a tribe unto themselves. But few of them are able to overcome that disadvantage, so they still support Trump.It seems unfair and inaccurate to judge people in groups. But if you are going to do it, I think it would be more pertinent and revealing to look at educational status. IMO, university trained people have a lot of common traits and pretty much are a tribe unto themselves. Though many are able to overcome the disadvantage.
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Fwiw the most toxic person i've ever met, in or out of a work setting, was an older millennial.
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Post generational differences you believe to be noteworthy.
Some more serious, others less so.
Gen Z has the worst music. Taylor Swift is potentially more overrated than Beyonce. How can that be? Did this cohort willingly look at the greatest pop culture mistake of my generation, and consciously decide to top it?
Some more serious, others less so.
Gen Z has the worst music. Taylor Swift is potentially more overrated than Beyonce. How can that be? Did this cohort willingly look at the greatest pop culture mistake of my generation, and consciously decide to top it?
One list of the the various generations:
bestlifeonline.com
- Gen Alpha: Born After 2010
- Gen Z: Born 1997–2010
- Millennial Generation: Born 1981–1996
- Xennial Generation: Born 1977 to 1983
- Gen X: Born 1965–1980
- Generation Jones: Born 1955 to 1964
- Baby Boomer Generation: Born 1946 to 1964
- The Silent Generation: Born 1928 to 1945
- The Greatest Generation: Born 1901–1927
- The Lost Generation: Born 1883-1910
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GenZ has the worst music [names 2 millennials]
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We've let them down, evidently.
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Sincerely don't know what you're on about. There's an embarrassment of musical riches out there right now.
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bit of a bizarre take, music is finally getting good after being pretty terrible in the 2010s
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We are far apart.
I don't feel any come remotely close to capturing my life experiences, honestly. Like, not one. I don't even see much artistic talent in most of what I listen to, tbh.
I'm okay with identifying as a Boomer. We get mocked a lot, but it's easier than having to remember a bunch of alphabet soup. And it's nice to get that 20% discount at some stores (ie. on the first Tuesday of the month at a particular pharmacy). I had no idea they even had that policy until the clerk hesitantly asked me if I was over 55 and I said yes; she then said I could have 20% off my purchase for being a senior, if I wanted it. She was afraid I'd be insulted at being called a senior (it's weird how some women are about that). Vanity vs. a few dollars off my purchase? Gimme that discount! And age is only how many times you've been around the Sun. Next year I want to go somewhere else, but so far NASA hasn't made that possible.
There are 16 months between my age and hers. My "back in the day" music is late '60s-'70s folk music. Even some of the best filk music is from that era. I've posted Leslie Fish's "Hope Eyrie" here on the forum; that's her homage to the Apollo program, and she started writing it the same day she watched Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin step onto the Moon.
That's a shame. Lots of interesting stuff happened before 1988. Mind you, Halley's Comet was a letdown, as it wasn't anywhere as bright as people had hoped. I kept looking for it and was never sure if I saw it or not. Fast-forward to the '90s, and I was in no doubt whatsoever about Hale-Bopp. Hyakutake was cool, too.
1986 was a milestone year for so many reasons. My grandfather died, I joined the SCA, and that was the year when we had more cats than we knew what to do with (whaddaya mean, I can't keep all of them? It's only 7! - 9 with Maggie's first litter of kittens...). The family cat population stabilized at 3, increasing to 4 the following year when Lightning had kittens (3 in the litter; we kept one). So 4 cats until 1992 when Cassandra died, then back to 4 the following year when Gussy turned up. Gussy died the same year Maddy was born, and Lightning died 20 years ago (seems mind-boggling to realize that; where did the time go?).
Forget music styles. How can you tell that I reckon a lot of the years of my life by which cats I had?
Just pick up a Cathy comic digest from that time. Cathy was a comic strip about a businesswoman whose mother kept nagging her to marry, and Cathy was juggling boyfriends Irving, David, and a couple of others - while dealing with her feminist friend Andrea. Cathy and Irving never denied themselves anything, whether it was the current trendy restaurant thing, or expensive, one-purpose kitchen appliances. They had to always go with the currently-popular thing, and I was floored when one strip had Cathy babbling about whether her friends and someone else's friends played Trivial Pursuit. Apparently playing Trivial Pursuit was the measure of whether someone was worth knowing: "My friends play Trivial Pursuit. Do your friends play Trivial Pursuit? My friends and your friends should get together!" (or something like that; I'm going by memory here).
There's a current trend on FB to mock boomers for liking AI pictures and not understanding that they are indeed fake and disrespectful to artists who have worked at improving their skills over many years.
I think it's more to do with whether the person is able to recognize a fake when they see it. I certainly worked for many years to improve my artistic skills, whether they be in music, drawing, writing, or needlework. I got fed up with Pinterest constantly sending me AI crap in my feeds, and am trying to figure out how to get them to send me pictures of penguins and other stuff I know is real.
My dad had a Grade 8 education. But he was a lifelong reader, both of books and newspapers (read 2 or 3 daily), and liked the educational programs on TV. He always encouraged me in my own educational pursuits, and I still have fond memories of him coming into the kitchen at 4 am and finding me stuck on a math problem for my geography lab in college. I had to turn the lab in by noon, and this was preventing me from finishing. So after I explained the assignment to him, he helped me figure out the math (he was always good at math), and I managed to finish, get some sleep, and get that thing turned in on time.
My dad never voted right-wing. Ever. And while he wasn't really aware of Trump (dementia took his mind back in 2007 and he died in 2019), I know there was no way in hell he would have approved of him. We've got a Trumpette running my province right now, and I can confidently say that my dad wouldn't have supported her, either. His only fault was a persistent belief in UFOs and space aliens.
Would you believe that I have never listened to either of these two singers? I've probably heard their songs at some point, but wouldn't be able to identify them as being the singers.
So... my grandfather, who was born in 1901, was both "Greatest" and "Lost"? That seems to be a contradiction.One list of the the various generations:
Other listings here:
- Gen Alpha: Born After 2010
- Gen Z: Born 1997–2010
- Millennial Generation: Born 1981–1996
- Xennial Generation: Born 1977 to 1983
- Gen X: Born 1965–1980
- Generation Jones: Born 1955 to 1964
- Baby Boomer Generation: Born 1946 to 1964
- The Silent Generation: Born 1928 to 1945
- The Greatest Generation: Born 1901–1927
- The Lost Generation: Born 1883-1910
Do You Know the Meaning of Your Generation Name? An Explainer
Discover the fascinating world of generational classifications! From the Silent Generation to Gen Z, each group has its own unique characteristics shaped by history. Do you know where you belong in this generational tapestry and the name meaning? Find out!
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I confess to feeling that younger generations are generally not accustomed to hard work and appear taken aback when it is required of them. But that's just because we don't work kids anymore.
I worked summers at age 10 on construction sites.
At 16, while in HS, I worked a 48-hour weekly shift in a textile mill.
As a senior I took some time off to chase girls and cruise the drag at night (but I was also working as a school bus driver)
I dug footers with a shovel, walked stud walls hanging site built rafters, using a hand saw (powered by my hands and arms). I worked in the fields hand picking whatever you can name. Roofing, masonry. At eight I was responsible for hauling the coal into the house for Granny. etcetera
And then if I hand a rake to a youngish person, they look at it like it is a deadly weapon. This is a cultural change, I am proud of working hard, today, people look at that and think, omg, JD Vance's neighbor. Eh, whatever. Labor is voting in a different direction now.
I worked summers at age 10 on construction sites.
At 16, while in HS, I worked a 48-hour weekly shift in a textile mill.
As a senior I took some time off to chase girls and cruise the drag at night (but I was also working as a school bus driver)
I dug footers with a shovel, walked stud walls hanging site built rafters, using a hand saw (powered by my hands and arms). I worked in the fields hand picking whatever you can name. Roofing, masonry. At eight I was responsible for hauling the coal into the house for Granny. etcetera
And then if I hand a rake to a youngish person, they look at it like it is a deadly weapon. This is a cultural change, I am proud of working hard, today, people look at that and think, omg, JD Vance's neighbor. Eh, whatever. Labor is voting in a different direction now.
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I don't think that's it.
Cynicism is more responsible to my mind. You're thought to be foolish if you work hard.
I've done that at every job I've ever worked. I can't fathom why people would ever allow themselves to be bad at something if they could be otherwise.
But having said that, honestly, there was never any reward for it, except more hard work. Pay didn't change. People who were well known for not doing their jobs, either because they were unwilling or incapable, were under no realistic threat of losing them. I don't mean slacking or underperforming... some of this could be argued to cross into fraudulent territory, ethically. No attempt made. Nearly everything was permitted.
Been like that most every place I've worked. When the strong are most often punished for it, you can rationally conclude that strength is not strength at all, but stupidity. AFAICT many have.
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I'll tell you one difference between my generation and the later ones. Opportunity.
And that's why I never will vote for a Democrat. I graduated in the midst of the Carter inflation and Carter's economy nearly bankrupted our family business. My pop said that the family could only send one of us to college (my younger sis couldn't work on the crew, so) and the other would have to stay and work. So, I didn't go, turns out by the time she was old enough to go it had become pretty easy to borrow money for school.
So, the younger generations have had the opportunity to go to college and sleep with everybody and everything and spend 4 years drunk and stoned and get a magic piece of paper that puts them in the front of the job line and live Godless lives, subsidized by my tax dollars.
So, Carter screwed me over and I will never vote for a Democrat. But after that, I ended up on the right side of everything. So, it turned out that while the younger generations have opportunity handed to them on a silver platter, our generation had to make our own, so
And that's why I never will vote for a Democrat. I graduated in the midst of the Carter inflation and Carter's economy nearly bankrupted our family business. My pop said that the family could only send one of us to college (my younger sis couldn't work on the crew, so) and the other would have to stay and work. So, I didn't go, turns out by the time she was old enough to go it had become pretty easy to borrow money for school.
So, the younger generations have had the opportunity to go to college and sleep with everybody and everything and spend 4 years drunk and stoned and get a magic piece of paper that puts them in the front of the job line and live Godless lives, subsidized by my tax dollars.
So, Carter screwed me over and I will never vote for a Democrat. But after that, I ended up on the right side of everything. So, it turned out that while the younger generations have opportunity handed to them on a silver platter, our generation had to make our own, so
There, I did.
An inflation caused by Nixon....
But hey, Republicans: The Party of Ducking Responsibility.
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Nixon was a great president pulled down by the lousy Democrats for some minor thing that both parties do all the time...and who could blame the guy given that Joe Kennedy and the Democrats stole the 1960 election in Chicago!
I think what we have seen over the past few decades is that work life has transitioned from "While you are at work your activity choices are very limited" to "while at work your activity choices have greatly expanded." Phones and computers have widened the choices we have in how we spend our work time. Many people would much rather stream games or videos or chat on social media while on the clock than just focus on work. Those options were not available in the past. We have far more distractions now than in the past.
In addition, there have been significant changes in US culture over the past 50 years that have reduced the need and opportunity for child labor. Nowadays, a 10 year old would not be allowed to work at a construction site.
Carter had little to do with the inflation of the 1970s other than to try and fix it. In fact it was Carter who appointed Volker to the Fed and he was the guy who eventually ended it in 1982.
Economists debate the precise causal factors behind the Great Inflation’s inception, but several likely catalyzed the problem:
- Overstimulation from increased government spending on the Vietnam War and Great Society social programs.
- Accommodative Federal Reserve policy keeping interest rates low, which encouraged borrowing and spending.
- Supply shocks from the 1973–74 and 1979 oil crises, which caused energy prices to soar, and food price spikes due to poor harvests
- Decline in US productivity growth after fast gains in prior decades, which made it harder for businesses to absorb rising costs.
- These drivers created a damaging feedback loop of rising consumer prices, slowing economic output, and entrenched inflation expectations that policymakers struggled to unwind. The Consumer Price Index (CPI), a key measure of inflation, rose from an annual rate of 1.6% in 1965 to over 14% in 1980.
Key Effects on the Economy
The Great Inflation took a heavy toll before its ultimate unwinding by the early 1980s:- Interest rates surged from around 6% in 1965 to an apex of 20% by 1981 as the Federal Reserve tried to restrain price growth.
- Two major recessions struck in the mid and late 1970s amid the Fed’s tightening, with GDP growth falling to -0.2% in 1974 and -0.3% in 1980.
- Corporate profits declined significantly from higher wages and input costs, with the S&P 500’s earnings per share falling over 20% from 1973 to 1975.
- Stock markets treaded water for years as valuation ratios contracted, with the S&P 500 index posting a meager 6.6% total return from 1965 to 1982
Here is a good summary of the events and the various attempts to end the problem.
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To be fair:
www.historynewsnetwork.org
Like 2020, we will never know. At least back when this article was written people were honest enough to admit that cheating is a fact of life.
Who Really Won the 1960 Election?
November 8, 2010 marks the fiftieth anniversary of the presidential election of 1960, which still very much interests those who care about disputed elections.
www.historynewsnetwork.org
Like 2020, we will never know. At least back when this article was written people were honest enough to admit that cheating is a fact of life.
If you are looking at election controversy, don't forget 2000 when SCOTUS decided Bush won. As far as 2020 goes, there is no credible evidence that Trump won or that there was any fraud sufficient to cause a Biden win.To be fair:
Who Really Won the 1960 Election?
November 8, 2010 marks the fiftieth anniversary of the presidential election of 1960, which still very much interests those who care about disputed elections.
Like 2020, we will never know. At least back when this article was written people were honest enough to admit that cheating is a fact of life.
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