New Buildings Discussion

[Koshling]

1. Have you asked Koshling or strategyonly for permission to edit the SVN yet?

@Faustmouse - please get permission from SO first (he runs the mod) then let me know what your sourceforge username is and I'll set you up with write permissions on the SVN.

 

[Hydromancerx]

I'd prefer we put new art in either mine or yours, H. Reason being that every time that main FPK gets updated its hell to update the SVN.

Well I assumed that new buttons are placed in the art folder and then periodically get merged into the core FPK. Since as you ay it takes forever to update.

 

[Faustmouse]

SO PMed me and asked what I'm doing sine Hydro set up some files for me. Than he said he would like to have a testphase to see that I don't mess around, then he will give me permission to edit the SVN.

I haven't figured out yet how to use a different Alpha Channel. I will try tomorrow. So my buttons are wrong (beside the fact that the Nutella is hardly seen on the icon)?

ah ok I found the FPK. I can't open it, whats the correct programm (beside the mod itself) to do so (and to edit it?)

Well I assumed that new buttons are placed in the art folder and then periodically get merged into the core FPK. Since as you ay it takes forever to update.

So I'll save them in the art folder as DDS files? And I still don't know which size or frame the ressource buttons should have.

And yes, I'll ask SO about it, thx.

 

[climat]

ah ok I found the FPK. I can't open it, whats the correct programm (beside the mod itself) to do so (and to edit it?)

IIRC, you can use PakBuild to unpack and compress FPK.

 

[Hydromancerx]

IIRC, you can use PakBuild to unpack and compress FPK.

Yeah PakBuild is uses to both open and "pack up" the files. However we are either at or near the limit of the amount of FPKs you can have. So that's why everyone except Me, DH and TB have to use the core FPKs for their art. Note that art works fine outside of an FPK, but it slows down mod loading (I think). Which is why loose images are periodically merged into the core.

And the only reason DH and I have our own is because we started with them when first making C2C. Its only later that other joined the team and we found out there was an FPK limit.

As for why TB has one, I have no idea how he got so lucky to get his own.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I made one and it didn't break the limit and nobody told me to remove it. It's been quite helpful of course

 

[Faustmouse]

Ok thx, I'll look for that programm.

However, I still don't know what size, frame etc the icons for my resources should have. The code for all of those you gave me is done, they only need icons now.

And for my question with the Alpha Channel, I think I figured it out and fix it right now.

4. Technically all the art are in a compressed FPK file. However we already have near the max amount of FPKs made. So any new art by other people (such as you) is eventually merged into the core FPK. For more info on that i recommend asking strategyonly about that since he is the one who deal with that stuff.

I did. And he said he is busy and has problems with win8, so I should ask Hydro

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

1. The resource buttons use the same buttons as the others do. Since they are not map resources the rest of the tiny graphics are less important so I just use <FontButtonIndex>104</FontButtonIndex> which uses the default scroll icon.

2. Ok how about this. You post the resource icon/buttons and I will include them in my own FPK. Most of them are already there. Which means it will go here ...

<Button>art/Goods/Art/example.dds</Button>

EDIT: Post your resource icon/buttons here ...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=461004

 

[Faustmouse]

Ok thanks!
I posted the nutella icon as example in the resource thread. If it's done correct I'll make the others today. XML for all the requested resources is done now.

 

[Faustmouse]

Ok I THINK those two buildings should be correct now.

- I remade the icons and scaled Nutella and Hovercraft up.

- I saved as DDS DXT3 not DXT1 like in the first time

- I used the correct Alpha Button

- I only have buildings in my folder now


Anything else I missed?

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

Looks like you did them right. I can see the alpha layer and its saved correctly. I still think its hard to see the hovercraft and the both seem kinda ugly. I suppose they will do for now. Maybe I can come up with something later.

 

[Faustmouse]

Ugly?
Hmm... I thought your Factories looked the same, with a standard Factory Icon and the product on it.
So next time I'll do only the product if you want to.


Edit: @Hydro: If you'd post me some more buildings to make within an hour I have something to do in the train later

 

[Hydromancerx]

Ugly?
Hmm... I thought your Factories looked the same, with a standard Factory Icon and the product on it.
So next time I'll do only the product if you want to.

Yeah it would be better if the factories just were images of the product they made and did not use the factory button in the background.

 

[Hydromancerx]

@Faustmouse

Might as well keep going with the Factory buildings I have on my list.

--Buildings--

Microwave Factory
Req Tech: Radar AND Electronics
Obsolete Tech: None
Req Buildings: Factory
Req Resources: Plastic AND Parts
Cost: 1020
City Size: 6 or Greater
Requires Power

• Produces 1 Microwaves
• +3
• +1% with Computers
• +1
• +5 Flammability
• +5 Air Pollution

---

Energy Drink Factory
Req Tech: Extreme Sports
Obsolete Tech: None
Req Buildings: Factory
Req Resources: Plastic AND Sugar
Cost: 1900
City Size: 6 or Greater
Requires Power
Require Fresh Water Source

• Produces 1 Energy Drinks
• +1
• +1
• +3
• +1 with Dyes (BONUS_DYE2)
• +1% with Coffee
• +1% with Lemons
• +1% with Apples
• +1% with Grapes
• +1% with Melons
• +1% with Mangoes
• +1% with Guavas
• +1
• +5 Flammability
• +5 Air Pollution

---

Immunity Drug Factory
Req Tech: Molecular Medicine
Obsolete Tech: None
Req Buildings: Factory AND Gen Farming Lab
Req Resources: None
Cost: 3450
City Size: 6 or Greater
Requires Power

• Produces 1 Immunity Drug
• +5
• +1
• +5 Flammability
• +5 Air Pollution

--Resources--

Microwaves
Reveals: Electronics
Enables: Electronics

---

Energy Drinks
Reveals: Extreme Sports
Enables: Extreme Sports

---

Immunity Drugs
Reveals: Molecular Medicine
Enables: Molecular Medicine
Health: +1

---

Dried Fruit
Reveals: Drying
Enables: Drying

---

Dried Fish
Reveals: Drying
Enables: Drying

---

Dried Meat
Reveals: Drying
Enables: Drying

---

Thanks!

 

[Faustmouse]

Yeah it would be better if the factories just were images of the product they made and did not use the factory button in the background.

Should the Factory and it's product use the excact same button or different ones?

Ok, thx for the buildings

 

[Hydromancerx]

Should the Factory and it's product use the excact same button or different ones?

I try to keep them different wherever possible.

 

[Nimek]

VR Games
Replaces Arcade Games
Revealed by virtual reality

In future vr games equipment wil be expensive so I bet that type of places will exists like arcade games saloon was.

 

[Faustmouse]

I try to keep them different wherever possible.

Ok, I'll try.

As for the "immunity drugs", what excactly do you mean by it?

 

[Hydromancerx]

VR Games
Replaces Arcade Games
Revealed by virtual reality

In future vr games equipment wil be expensive so I bet that type of places will exists like arcade games saloon was.

There is already a VR Theater building. It has been in the game since RoM/AND.

 

[Faustmouse]

@Hydro:
Could you post your next buildings already? I have a weird timetable when I have access to the internet, so when I upload the set with the Energydrink Factory I already know what to do next?

Thx