New call for Rhye's and Fall of Civilization

[Imperator101]

yay this is still happening, good luck.

 

[Thor Macklin]

Well although it's premature I give you a KUDOS Rhye for still working on this. I am still enjoying this mod and I'm glad to see all the work that is still being put into it

 

[Catalonia]

You can create Catalan civilization (at east Iberic peninsula,c capital Barcelona). Needs to ocupe Valencia, Aragon and Balears until 1300 and find America the first. And needs to ocupe souyh France, Athens and Constantinopla until 1500.

 

[hoplitejoe]

Got to love Catalan Nationalists

 

[NinjaCow64]

You can create Catalan civilization (at east Iberic peninsula,c capital Barcelona). Needs to ocupe Valencia, Aragon and Balears until 1300 and find America the first. And needs to ocupe souyh France, Athens and Constantinopla until 1500.

I have nothing against Catalonia (the country oh and hi Joan), but I doubt that Rhye will include it. That's where mods come in.

 

[Catalonia]

You can make Catalonia, Poland. And if you can play as Neetherlands or Porgual, why not whit Poland and Catalonia

 

[NinjaCow64]

You can make Catalonia, Poland. And if you can play as Neetherlands or Porgual, why not whit Poland and Catalonia

Because, unlike the Netherlands or Portugal, Poland and Catalonia didn't have any major colonies IRL.

But, I'm sure that you could easily make a modmod including both of those countries if you wanted to.

 

[Catalonia]

Yes, I did it

But Poland is important:
Needs to ocupe Poland-lithuan kingdom until 1400
Can't lose any city to russian-german armies
Needs to have a city in the coast until 1920

And Catalonia is important in the european history, they ocuped a lot of land in Greece, Byzantine's empire, France, Italy and America.

 

[Catalonia]

Catalonia

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Poland

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[PawelS]

I think these countries should be added when a version of RFC with Europe map instead of World map is made.

 

[Catalonia]

But I think than Shongai was smaller than Catalonia or Poland...

 

[CladInShadows]

Could I make a suggestion - I always thought it was weird that the Aztecs in RFC start surrounded by open land, and use settlers to settle multiple cities.

In real life, the Mexicatl only ever settled their capital of Mexico-Tenochtitlan. The rest of their empire was formed of surrounding city states who had been forced into tribute and submission by the Aztec influence and power.

In fact - this was one of the reason that they were so easily defeated by the Spanish. The Spanish managed to turn many of these city states back against the Mexicatl by promising them freedom from their oppression. Not that the Spanish ended up being any better..

Given that city states are in CIv5 - I think this would be perfect. The Aztecs should begin surrounded by city states such as Texcala, Tolan, etc, and their first historical goal should be to subdue them, either through force or influence.

 

[Catalonia]

Is so good.

 

[hoplitejoe]

Aragon can easily be represented with Spain. If we start to say Aragon deserves it's own civ then we have to look for other nations which deserve it.
From just Europe I can think of... Scotland, "The Celts", Burgundy, Austria, Prussia, Sicily, Venice, Hungary, Poland, Serbia, Bulgaria, Kiev Rus, Novgorod, Sweden, Byzantium and I am sure I have missed loads.
If we continued like that for the rest of the world we would have hundreds of civs! They get in on a need to be in basis due to the limits in the game and computer processing power, and Aragon, which can easily represented by Spain, can be left out of the game without causing any problems.

You also point to Shongai, They are important as they are a regional power and represent all the West African nations. Without them West Africa would be empty which is massively ahistorical.

 

[NinjaCow64]

I notice that whenever someone makes a list, Australia isn't included. Sure, we're not all that important but if you don't include us then you get the whole of Australia empty...which is fairly realistic but still. /end nationalistic rant.

 

[hoplitejoe]

They are settled by the English or Dutch normally

 

[Catalonia]

Cataloia
Flag:Senyera

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Leader: Francesc Macià

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Special unit: Almogàver

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Swordsman, Cost: 75 production; 10 strength; 3 moves; +25% to strength when attack; +50% in foreign lands

Unic building: modernist building

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Like museum, 1 gold per turn, 5 culture per turn

Trait: Mediterranian sailors, +2 gold per trade route.
Objectives: Ocupe Valencia and Balearic islands until 1500
Kill 5 american units until 1700
Don't lose any city at 1920-1940

 

[Sonereal]

lolwut.

 

[Mosher]

The problem with Catalonia is that it isn't a civilization, it's just a branch off of Spanish culture...

I agree that Poland should be included, though. They were really important until the Age of Partitions.

@NC - Why would Australia have a civ there? Aboriginals can be represented by the barbs that will spawn there and Australia isn't really a civilization, just a branch off of Britain.

 

[Catalonia]

Sorry?

Catalonia was a Kingdom, like France and Castilla. Then we have join to Castilla and we created Spain. Spain was composed by Navarra, Catalonia, Castilla and Granada. Then, Spain had a lot of fusions, whit Austria, Portugal, France...

So the Spain in the game is not Spain, is Castilla. Can be supplemented whit Catalonia