None Shall Pass [Game Thread - Concluded]

vote: Stuck in Pi. Darth Vader will die.
 
Damn you, Vader! [pissed]
 
Why? He killed jht's character which had unfortunately fallen prey to ponytarians. Now back into the cellars with you! :whipped:
 
If you hadn't converted jht, you wouldn't be dealing with this. :p

*trots off to the sunset*
 
*into the sunset. It must be hard, typing with hooves.
 
Well, that went well.

SO...

SW town. I've got something to tell all of you. Frozen wasn't lying yesterday when he said that when the last of the original four cultists die, the rest of their vanilla converts die with them. So here's your situation:

5 Lotr townies.
7 SW players. 3 of which are cult, including me.

You have a decision to make. You can lynch me today, killing off the SW cult and leaving the towns to duke it out...except you then guarantee yourself a loss since the ratio will be 5 to 4, in the favor of LotR. LotR town wins.

OR

You can win with me. I'll be converting all of you since I don't have to kill any longer. With the LotR night kill threat removed and with our current vote superiority, killing at night is unnecessary. We lynch one of them during the day, I convert one of you at night, and every single one of us wins the game.

The choice is yours. Lynch me and hand the game to the LotR town on a silver platter. Or join me and we will rule the galaxy as father and a whole bunch of adopted sons.

We'll start with vote: Arakhor. Thanks for all your help yesterday!
 
SW cult over LOTR town, vote: Arakhor.

It's really quite simple, if SW cult dies then LOTR town wins with their larger voting power. If SW cult lives, everyone on SW wins. There is only one option.
 
I see no reason what so ever to just give up and loose, even if that means getting converted. Vote: Arakhor
 
Long live the Vader!
vote: Arakhor.
Dump him!
 
:cringe: Well, there was a fairly large chance that this would happen. As I have warned you yesterday, if any of you are nonconvertible, you completely lose in this, since Vader will just kill you, leading you down the route to total defeat. Remember that Kennigit made someone NC on night one, and many of you started as NCs
 
That, and I see no reason for you guys to trust vader's claim that the rest of the cult would suicide, or that Celt is even a cultist, though he/she hasn't denied it
 
Vote: StuckInPi. Thank you for killing the LotR cult, but remember, you have absolutely no reason to trust Vader. Not only is he trying to scare you into not voting for him, he can't convert those of you who are inconvertible and I know that one of you remaining was susceptible to joining the LotR cult, which probably means you can't join SW Cult.

Voting for me means that SW Town loses. Do realise that, especially you dcmort, since you're claiming that you don't want to lose. You still have the vote majority, even with Vader dead.
 
For the record, though, even if Vader is absolutely correct and SW Cult dies off en-masse and LotR Town then votes the remainder to lynch over the next two or three days, you haven't lost. You've come second out of fourth, having defeated both cults.

Note that SW Cult don't even need to convert you all to win. They just need more members than LotR Town. At that point, they win and everyone else loses. Be very aware of that - SW Town will not win and SW Cult will not include everyone at that point.

Vote for Vader or some of you will lose.
 
vote: Stuck in Pi

SW cult over LOTR town, vote: Arakhor.

It's really quite simple, if SW cult dies then LOTR town wins with their larger voting power. If SW cult lives, everyone on SW wins. There is only one option.
Hm?
I am totally down to lynch Vader tomorrow.
:backstab:

SW: Very well, but live with the consequences. Remember, if Vader wins, then SW have lost. Not only have you lost, but the evil have triumphed. Do not betray me now. This is like the movies all over again, everyone coming to the Dark Side "because the Jedi are powerless."

One more time:
Askthepizzaguy said:
You better try to make town win. I am not doing all this just so cults can win this game. The harder game is the anti-cult game. Just letting the cults get you is completely lame. Play the harder game. Have fun.

Vote for Vader.
 
Even if we accept that everything Vader has said is the truth, here's the cold facts of the matter:

If no one is lynched or killed for the rest of the game and Vader continues to convert someone each night, SW Cult will win the game when they reach six members. All remaining town characters will lose. There will be at least one remaining Star Wars character, even if no one is incorruptible. If I die today, this schedule advances by one day - SW Cult will win when they have five members and at least two SW townies will lose.

If I die today and Vader converts someone tonight, SW Cult will be tied with LotR as the most powerful faction. If another LotR character is lynched tomorrow and SW Cult numbers four members at that point, they will win, without the need for another night phase.

Frozen may have been threatening it yesterday, but now it's a promise - if you do not vote for StuckInPi/Darth Vader, SW Cult will win and one to three SW townies will lose. There are no other alternatives.
 
Enemies of Star Wars Cult:

The following factions must be completely eliminated for you to achieve victory:

• Lord of the Rings Cult

Once the above faction is eliminated, you must eliminate at least one of the following factions and have as many or more members in your faction as the remaining faction:

• Star Wars Town

• Lord of the Rings Town

So, working from the above:

It's really quite simple, if SW cult dies then LOTR town wins with their larger voting power. If SW cult lives, everyone on SW wins. There is only one option.

No, they don't. Vader neglected to point out his victory condition, for obvious reasons.

As long as he can convert everybody. I don't like winning with a different faction, but since it's that or losing, ...
He can't. Some of you will lose.

I see no reason what so ever to just give up and loose, even if that means getting converted.
If you don't vote for Vader, even if he is telling the truth, that's exactly what you are doing.

In fact, going from Zack's quote, SW Cult wins the game tomorrow morning if you lynch me today, rather than Vader. Welcome to Lynch-or-Lose, people. Any other questions, SW Town, before you throw away the game simply because Darth Vader tells you to?
 
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