Pedophile who repeatedly sexually assaulted 6-8yo girls claims he's "trans-age"

[metalhead]

For example, is a transage nine years old able to work? Legally, there would be severe limitations on that. If not, who provides for them? And who has legal guardianship? Someone has to (since a child does not have full legal autonomy). Do they lose their right to vote? Can they drive? Drink? Is this nine years old under a legal obligation to attend elemtary school every year for the rest of their life? Education laws, as phrased, would lean that way. How many transage folks are actually willing to put up with all that?

There are already systems in place for people who do not possess adult faculties. This is where the whole thing sort of falls apart - the guy in the OP is 38. Has he truly been socially and developmentally the equivalent of a 9 year old his whole life? If so, barring rather extreme neglect, he would have been brought into the system and been under someone's supervision and power of attorney a long time ago.

"I'm a 9 year old in an adult's body but have the agency and decisionmaking skills of an adult" means you're a pedophile trying to justify it to yourself and the outside world. I'd love to know if investigators or attorneys ever asked him if he should have all of his adult rights stripped from him on account of his "condition," be prevented from driving a car, going to R movies alone, voting, buying and using tobacco, drinking and purchasing alcohol, etc. And if so, what his response was.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

"I'm a 9 year old in an adult's body but have the agency and decisionmaking skills of an adult" means you're a pedophile trying to justify it to yourself and the outside world. I'd love to know if investigators or attorneys ever asked him if he should have all of his adult rights stripped from him on account of his condition. And if so, what his response was.

Well it does in this case because of... well... the other aspects of the case. But there's nothing paedophilic about claiming to BE a child. It's also a really rubbish excuse for being sexually attracted to children and doesn't really make sense as an explanation.

 

[Evie]

Like I said, my post was a thought experiment based on the assumption that transageism exist (as something entirely distinct from someone being mentally unfit to exercise their adult right). We're not talking about people with the cognitive abilities of children ; we're talking about people who identify as children (but otherwise have full cognitive abilities).

I don't think it's something only pedophiles do - "littles" have been a thing for a long time (they seek to act as and be treated as a child by their significant other and friends), and though some of that is purely fetishistic, for many it appears to go beyond sexual fetishes. I suppose that for many of them it's simply a way of reconnecting with a simpler, easier time (when you were a child and had someone to care for you), rather than face the adult world with all its difficulties. Of course, these people *don't* claim to be attracted to children.

But be that as it may, one, allowing people to waive their responsibilities wily-nily by proclamining themselves children wily-nily is obviously untenable as a society. The system for people with cognitive development difficulties can't just take on a massive influx of alleged transage people, and outside that system all the legal difficulties I outlined are in full force.

 

[El_Machinae]

I can think of a few mental illnesses that would result in a person believing that they are much younger than they are. But, unlike transgenderism, I cannot think of any neuroanatomical features that are developmentally determined that would cause such behaviour.

There are entire nuclei (a group of neurons with a function) that are associated with gender expression, since so much of it is hardwired in the brain.

 

[Farm Boy]

I don't remember that I even knew what an erection was when I was 8.

Confusing.

 

[yung.carl.jung]

i am trans parent you cant see me

 

[Broken_Erika]

i am trans parent you cant see me

Yes we can.
Furthermore; Maybe you should put some pants on or something, if you want to keep fighting evil today.....

 

[Borachio]

Confusing.

I'm confused. Why is that confusing?

 

[Farm Boy]

That's what an erection was when I was 8.

 

[Borachio]

Oh, I see.

I don't think I ever had one till much later, at puberty.

And, come to think of it, I've only ever seen my own in real life.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I'm confused about what the confusion was and ever more confused about how the confusion has been solved.

Edit: As soon as I posted that I got it, so nvm.

I'm guessing that childhood erections is not a topic that would be particularly wise to get into, particularly not on CFC, but suffice it to say that none of the above remotely tallies with my own personal experience. Which is perhaps another reason why I was confused about all the confusion about confusing things.

 

[Borachio]

Now it's me that's confused. I wasn't confused at all, earlier on.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Res-Erection?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

He should be made. "trans-life", and humanely put out of his misery.

TIL I identify as a dead person.

Anyway, there's an interesting question. How much of a person's identity can be defined by self-identification?

 

[Manfred Belheim]

I don't think the question is "how much" as it is "what aspects".

 

[inthesomeday]

And I can... somewhat accept the logic in a general argument. I think it is not too much of a stretch to believe that "trans-ageism" might at one point become accepted as an actual thing, after all, at least on the surface it sounds like a parallel to transgenderism - which it really isn't, but it might be close enough to over time convince a part of the left, maybe even the large majority of the left, to accept "trans-ageism".

Not really. The leftist understanding of gender actually comes from the very real fact that gender is literally a social construct, unlike age.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

The concept of an age of majority is a social construct, is it not? As another example, why does one state decide alcohol purchase is fine at 18, while another demands 21?

 

[inthesomeday]

Meh. Pedophilia is like porn; I know it when I see it. Significant age differences in any couple is something that doesn’t sit well with me, personally, and morality is all subjective so I’m not worried about having to defend that position. An 18 and 17 year old couple is fine, shouldn’t be pedophilia. A 56 and 18 year old isn’t fine to me— maybe not pedophilia but something I don’t believe is okay.

 

[Peuri]

Not really. The leftist understanding of gender actually comes from the very real fact that gender is literally a social construct, unlike age.

Everything is literally a social construct. The Moon is a social construct. The fact that we regard the Moon as an "object" is totally dependant on our understanding of objects as existing as concentrations of atoms distinct from surroundings with lesser amounts of atoms. Without humans socially constructing it, the matter comprising the "Moon" would surely exist, but the social aspect of what the moon represents and the concept of the "Moon" existing would not, because socially constructed concepts are the way we make sense of the world. So I think that calling sex as a social construct, and just assuming that solves something is dodging the issue. My point is that the real debate is moral, not ontological.

 

[inthesomeday]

I never called sex a social construct, I called gender a social construct.