Sorry, but my concern here is for lungs. You have the right to wreck your own, but you do not have the right to wreck other peoples' lungs.Yes and the police only dutifully enforce the law as written and won't use it as an excuse to go after the homeless and people of color. Which is worse?
I used to agree with this line of thinking but now I see that it hurts us in other ways.Sorry, but my concern here is for lungs. You have the right to wreck your own, but you do not have the right to wreck other peoples' lungs.
I used to agree with this line of thinking but now I see that it hurts us in other ways.
Sorry, but my concern here is for lungs. You have the right to wreck your own, but you do not have the right to wreck other peoples' lungs.
Or buses and most trains.Okay, so I take it you don't use cars then? Because cars wreck other people's lungs.
I haven't gone the whole granola boy yet, but I certainly refuse to own or drive automobiles with internal combustion engines.Okay, so I take it you don't use cars then? Because cars wreck other people's lungs.
Of course you don't, if you're not someone who has extremely bad reactions to even a little secondhand smoke. I guess instantaneous headaches, eyes streaming, heart pounding, extreme coughing to the point of throwing up, and gasping for air, trying to clear out one's lungs is nothing to you.Or buses and most trains.
I do not see how second hand smoke outdoors, away from buildings is a valid health concern in its own right, much less when compared to other pollution sources.
Or buses and most trains.
I do not see how second hand smoke outdoors, away from buildings is a valid health concern in its own right, much less when compared to other pollution sources.
We tried electric buses in Minnesota.Electric buses are starting to become a big thing, I hope all city bus fleets everywhere go 100% electric by 2030
There are a lot of natural gas powered buses here. I have not yet seen an all-electric one.
I was talking specifically about Irvine* in that post but point taken.Yeah you have, you just didn't know it. When I dropped you off at the train we were at the Palmdale Transit Center, which is the hub where all the local bus routes meet...and the AVTA is around 75% electric buses. A bunch of them came and went while we were standing there. The target date for all electric is 2024, IIRC. The transit center has induction chargers under the pavement and if I'd thought of it I'd have pointed out the electric buses copping a squat to juice up.
I was talking specifically about Irvine* in that post but point taken.
*We're a hundred miles apart which in any other metro would be - well we wouldn't be in the same metro in most other locations![]()