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Returning Civ Leaders-Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Guandao, Apr 27, 2017.

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  1. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro Chieftain

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    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 11
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 23
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 16
    Henry VIII 19
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 5
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 31+1=32 - The best choice. Represents Civ that isn't in game and being known as the richest man in history is pretty much good reason to pick him.
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 5
    Ragnar Lodbrok 6-3=3 - Not interrested in him. We don't need another leader for Norway, and if they want another "Viking civ", let it be Denmark with Harald Bluetooth. His return would be better.
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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  2. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Abraham Lincoln 16
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 11
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24 (23+1) back again please
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 16
    Henry VIII 16 (19-3) not so important for world history
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 5
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 5
    Ragnar Lodbrok 3
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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    IgorS Your ad could be here!

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    Abraham Lincoln 16
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 11
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 16
    Henry VIII 16 + 1 = 17 - I'd prefer to see Elizabeth, but since England already has a female leader, Henry VIII actually sounds like an excellent option, and a big personality
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 5
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 5
    Ragnar Lodbrok 3 - 3 = 0 And Ragnar Lodbrok returns again to the myths and legends
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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    civviefan Chieftain

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    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 11
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 16+1=17 (I want a civ with two female leaders)
    Henry VIII 17
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 5
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 5-3=2 (no idea who this is!)
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  5. WillowBrook

    WillowBrook Lurker

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    Abraham Lincoln 16
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 11
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 17
    Henry VIII 18 (17+1) big personality, and I'm sure they could come up with an interesting LUA related to religion
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 2 (5-3) plenty of other interesting possibilities for Rome
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 5-3=2 (no idea who this is!)
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  6. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    Abraham Lincoln 16
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 8 (11 - 3) -- Let's have a Gaulish leader who was more than just a name in Graeco-Roman propaganda...
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 17
    Henry VIII 18
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 2
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 32 (31 + 1) -- L'état, c'est moi.
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  7. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro Chieftain

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    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 8
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 17+1=18 - We need another Egyptian leader. And I don't care if Hatshepsut is a woman, she's a great choice.
    Henry VIII 18
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Julius Caesar 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - Why to pick him? Trajan is great choice, and there are lots of other good Roman emperors to pick (Augustus, Marcus Aurelius, Hadrian...)
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 32
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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  8. Boris Gudenuf

    Boris Gudenuf Chieftain

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    Abraham Lincoln 16
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 5 (8 - 3) - For Gaul there are, as said before, better choices with more certain historical reality: for a military leader, which is all the evidence we have for either Brennus, even Vercingetorix would be better (Although, if Civ didn't purport to be a historical game, I'd hold out for Fulliautomatix)
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 18
    Henry VIII 19 (18 + 1) - Put Louis XIV and Henry in the same game and the Leader Screens would be like something out of the Marx Brothers as written by Machiavelli: The Entertainment Vale alone makes them both must-haves.
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 32
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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  9. Morningcalm

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    Abraham Lincoln 16 + 1 = 17 (Successfully won a civil war, made cunning maneuvers to pass lasting reform, would have an excellent agenda-based fit for Civ VI, and relatively uncontroversial presidential choice for Civ, and would be a unique fit with his actual high voice ala that used in the recent 2012 Spielberg film)
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 5
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 18
    Henry VIII 19 - 3 = 16 (While a charismatic leader, his disastrous wars, executions and the like do not exactly spell glory for him. He is most known for beheading his wives, not forming the Church of England).
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 32
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  10. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Abraham Lincoln 18 (17+1) Killed more vampires than any other leader on this list. Ok, maybe Mehmed got some as well, but that is not as well documented.
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 5
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15 (18-3) As written before, many other good options, no need to repeat - even for someone as great as Hatshepsut. We never even had a single Old or Middle Kingdom Pharaoh so far.
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 32
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  11. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 6 (5+1) one more life;)
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 29 (32-3) not number 1
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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    Ashoka 32
    Brennus 6 - 3 = 3 - Why is he still here?
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 29 + 1 = 30 - Should be the number one choice for France.
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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  13. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 32
    Brennus ELIMINATED -- He can go back to his rightful place in Graeco-Roman propaganda.
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31 (30 + 1) -- Le Roi Soleil must take his place in the sun.
    Mansa Musa 32
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  14. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro Chieftain

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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 32
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin 5-3=2 - Not interrested in him. Should go before Osman, who at least founded the mighty Ottoman Empire.
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 32+1=33 - There can be only one leading the board. And Mansa Musa will be the leader!
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 33 (32 + 1) An Empire-Builder combined with a Pacific religion - that should count towards the diversity of the game.
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12
    Churchill 16
    Cunobelin -1 (2 - 3) and Gone: Another Kelt defined only by his relationship to Rome...
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 33 (Parenthetically, Anton Fugger may have been richer, and he did it the Hard Way - as a private citizen instead of a ruler. Mansa should still be in the game, though)
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 33
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 12 - 3 = 9 (An amazing ruler, but he simply wouldn't fit for either Germany or France, and a Holy Roman Empire civ attracts much ire given both how blobulous it is, and how we have so much European representation already. We need unique new leaders of unrepresented civs before we revisit this guy)
    Churchill 16
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 24 + 1 = 25 (A fascinating leader with cunning military and political stratagems who almost single-handedly created the Babylonian Empire. Incidentally I think he would be a better fit for a Surprise War agenda than Cyrus, but in any event, he could have a fitting improvement-based agenda given his reputation as Bani Matim and lawgiver)
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 33
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 15
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 9
     
  17. Guandao

    Guandao Rajah of Minyue and Langkasuka

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    Ashoka 33
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 9
    Churchill 16
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 25
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 31
    Mansa Musa 33
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis (15-3)=12 If the Hittites are added to the game, the leader should be Suppiluliuma I instead. I'm assuming the Civ3 Mursilis is based off of Mursili II, Suppiluliuma's son. Mursili II would be my second choice.
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob (9+1)=10 I still think he's a decent choice for an Ethiopian leader. Plus I don't want the Rastafari Messiah again.
     
  18. Manifold

    Manifold ModderProtectionAdvocate

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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 33
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 9
    Churchill 16
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 25
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 28 (31-3) Clemenceau or Cardinal Richelieu is better
    Mansa Musa 34 (33+1) in the lead again
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 12
    Osman 2
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 10
     
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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 33
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 9
    Churchill 16
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 25
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 28 + 1 = 29 - It is not in the power of kings to attain perfection (I wonder who gets the reference), but as a civ leader he is perfect.
    Mansa Musa 34
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 12
    Osman 2 - 3 = -1 - Sorry, Osman, but this is a game of elimination.
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 10
     
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    Abraham Lincoln 18
    Ashoka 33
    Canute/Cnut the Great 22
    Charlemagne 9-3=6 (A great leader defying the one civ approach of this game)
    Churchill 16
    Frederick the Great 25
    Hammurabi 25
    Hannibal Barca 22
    Hatshepsut 15+1=16 Egypt for the two queens honor! I don't care if they're sisters even...
    Henry VIII 16
    Huayna Capac 22
    João II 24
    Justinian I 12
    Louis XIV 29
    Mansa Musa 34
    Mehmed II 22
    Mursilis 12
    Sitting Bull 5
    Suryavarman II 21
    Tokugawa Ieyasu 21
    Wang Kon 11
    Zara Yaqob 10
     
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