Snowygerry
Deity
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
Sadly that is not an option when you're invaded by your murderous neighbours.
Sadly that is not an option when you're invaded by your murderous neighbours.
[RD] Russia Invades Ukraine: Eight
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Ordnael
Emperor
Your side is undoubtedly ahead in that race!
In all three categories: dumbness, bastardness and death!
Big congrats to your dear leader and his army of handlers, dumbing down his people and devaluing their lives! You are prime example of first 2 categories!
From the maps attached, it does not appear that much progress is being made in the invasion from last year to this year.
Moderator Action: And back to news please.
EnglishEdward
Deity
I'd very much like to get back to the news.
Unfortunately I am let down by the tardiness of our national broadcaster, the BBC.
With the exception of one article talking about the condition of Mariupol, all the articles are at least five days old.
www.bbc.co.uk
Unfortunately I am let down by the tardiness of our national broadcaster, the BBC.
With the exception of one article talking about the condition of Mariupol, all the articles are at least five days old.
Ukraine War | Latest News & Updates| BBC News
Follow the latest news about the Russia Ukraine war. Find reports from the ground, verified videos, maps and expert analysis by BBC correspondents across the world.
www.bbc.co.uk
Verbose
Deity
There isn't much news form the actual war down in Ukraine. The Russian troop concentrations, indicating the ambition of a summer offensive – towards Sumy, and in the Donbass – hasn't been going anywhere so far. The Russian terror bombardment of Ukranian civilians in towns and cities continues, and is quite ambitious. The Ukranians are asking for more AA, more airpower etc.
What's new is the clips of Putin talking about the war, and new themes, or at least somewhat new takes on the old themes, are creeping in. Putin does not doubt that it will all come right in the end, since "the west" is fundamentally unviable, and will collapse and die, allowing Russia to win by default – it's just that now there is a tone of exasperation, how it's taking to long to achieve this inevitable end, since things like the EU, and NATO, and showing signs of life and agency they should not, not even be able to, according to Putin's "reverse Fukuyama theory" civilizational history. (It was kinda faulty in the original, and it is bat-poop insane in Putin's inversion of it.)
And there are the financial indicators not looking good for Russia, or rather now starting to look so bad, no amount of spin or outright lying by the Russia state can quite deflect them anymore. Which has meant suddenly Putin is talking about reduced Russian military spending, as if that was possible without risking some things starting to break inside Russia.
Too little actually new, too little change, too much obscurity and interpretation...
What's new is the clips of Putin talking about the war, and new themes, or at least somewhat new takes on the old themes, are creeping in. Putin does not doubt that it will all come right in the end, since "the west" is fundamentally unviable, and will collapse and die, allowing Russia to win by default – it's just that now there is a tone of exasperation, how it's taking to long to achieve this inevitable end, since things like the EU, and NATO, and showing signs of life and agency they should not, not even be able to, according to Putin's "reverse Fukuyama theory" civilizational history. (It was kinda faulty in the original, and it is bat-poop insane in Putin's inversion of it.)
And there are the financial indicators not looking good for Russia, or rather now starting to look so bad, no amount of spin or outright lying by the Russia state can quite deflect them anymore. Which has meant suddenly Putin is talking about reduced Russian military spending, as if that was possible without risking some things starting to break inside Russia.
Too little actually new, too little change, too much obscurity and interpretation...
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News are the usual, Russia will run out of missiles by April, its economy will collapse by July and ruble not worth a cent.
Russia, which already controls about a fifth of Ukraine, continues to advance gradually, gaining ground in recent weeks in Ukraine's southeastern regions of Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk, and ramping up air attacks nationwide.
All weapons aid was briefly paused in February with a second longer pause in March. The Trump administration resumed sending the last of the aid approved under Biden.
No new policy has been announced. Politico reported the pause on Tuesday afternoon.
US halts some missile shipments to Ukraine over low stockpiles, sources say
July 1 (Reuters) - The Pentagon has halted some shipments of air defense missiles and other precision munitions to Ukraine over concerns that U.S. stockpiles are too low, two people familiar with the decision said on Tuesday. The Pentagon's slowing of some weapons shipments promised to Kyiv under former President Joe Biden's administration occurred in recent days, the people said. The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Among the weapons that are being delayed are air defense interceptors that would help knock down inbound Russian drones and missiles and other munitions, the people said.Russia, which already controls about a fifth of Ukraine, continues to advance gradually, gaining ground in recent weeks in Ukraine's southeastern regions of Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk, and ramping up air attacks nationwide.
All weapons aid was briefly paused in February with a second longer pause in March. The Trump administration resumed sending the last of the aid approved under Biden.
No new policy has been announced. Politico reported the pause on Tuesday afternoon.
Verbose
Deity
More Russian fixation on the US.
Snowygerry
Deity
The next best thing, according the theory, is only to engage in warfare when fully prepared and assured of victory beforehand, that did not happen either, as anyone can clearly see after three years.
No - Putin's Russia finds itself on one of the lowest steps of Sun Tzu's "cascade" of warfare, which are obviously also the least desirable.
I'm sure these things are adequately explained to Putin during his frequent visits to China
And thus diplomatic efforts continue, but sadly, while you can lead the horse to water, you cannot force it to drink :
Macron urges Putin to accept Ukraine ceasefire in first phone call since 2022
French President Emmanuel Macron urged Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday to agree to a ceasefire in Ukraine "as soon as possible" in the first phone call between the two leaders since 2022,…
www.france24.com
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EnglishEdward
Deity
Regarding the PISM article.
While no doubt Russia wants to obtain access to frozen funds and sell to the west without paying grey middle-men high mark ups,
I suspect the Polish Institute of International Affairs is, like many, deluding itself as the importance of western goods to Russia.
While no doubt Russia wants to obtain access to frozen funds and sell to the west without paying grey middle-men high mark ups,
I suspect the Polish Institute of International Affairs is, like many, deluding itself as the importance of western goods to Russia.
Broken_Erika
Play with me.
Kyiv hit by barrage of drone strikes as Putin rejects Trump's truce bid
A pall of acrid smoke hung over Kyiv on Friday morning following a night of intensive Russian strikes that hit almost every district of the capital, according to Ukrainian authorities.The hours of darkness were once again punctuated by the staccato of air defence guns, buzz of drones and large explosions. Ukraine said Russia fired a record 550 drones and 11 missiles during a long night of bombardment.
The strikes came hours after a phone call between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, after which Trump said he was "disappointed" that Putin was not ready to end the war against Ukraine.
A woman was killed in Russia following Ukrainian drone attacks, officials said.
The acting governor of Russia's southern Rostov region said she was killed in a strike on a village not far from the Ukrainian border.
Russia's overnight air strikes broke another record, Ukraine's air force said, with 72 of the 550 drones penetrating air defences - up from a previous record of 537 launched last Saturday night.
Air raid alerts sounded for more than eight hours as several waves of attacks struck Kyiv, the "main target of the strikes", the air force said on the messaging app Telegram.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky condemned one of the most "demonstratively significant and cynical" attacks of the war, describing a "harsh, sleepless night".
Noting that it came directly after Putin's call with Trump, Zelensky added in a post on Telegram: "Russia once again demonstrates that it does not intend to end the war".
He called on international allies - particularly the US - to increase pressure on Moscow and impose greater sanctions.
Footage shared on social media by Ukraine's state emergency service showed firefighters battling to extinguish fires in Kyiv after Russia's large-scale overnight attack.
At least 23 people were wounded in the attacks on Kyiv, according to Ukrainian authorities, with railway infrastructure damaged and schools, buildings and cars set ablaze across the capital. Poland's foreign minister, Radosław Sikorski, said the Polish embassy had also been damaged.
The Russian strikes also hit the regions of Sumy, Kharkiv, and Chernihiv.
Friday's attacks were the latest in a string of major Russian air strikes on Ukraine that have intensified in recent weeks as ceasefire talks have largely stalled.
War in Ukraine has been raging for more than three years since Russia launched its full-scale invasion in February 2022.
Following his conversation with Putin on Thursday, Trump said that "no progress" to end the fighting had been made.
"I'm very disappointed with the conversation I had today with President Putin, because I don't think he's there, and I'm very disappointed," Trump said.
"I'm just saying I don't think he's looking to stop, and that's too bad."
The Kremlin reiterated that it would continue to seek to remove "the root causes of the war in Ukraine". Putin has sought to return Ukraine to Russia's sphere of influence and said last week that "the whole of Ukraine is ours".
Responding to Trump's comments on Friday, Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov told the BBC that as long as it was not possible to secure Russia's aims through political-diplomatic means, "we are continuing our Special Military Operation" - Russia's preferred name for the invasion.
Meanwhile, President Zelensky said that he hoped to speak to Trump about the supply of US weapons after a decision in Washington to halt some shipments of critical weapons to Ukraine, including those used for air defences.
Kyiv has warned that the move would impede its ability to defend Ukraine against escalating airstrikes and Russian advances on the frontlines.
Speaking to reporters, Trump said "we're giving weapons" and "we haven't" completely paused the flow of weapons. He blamed former President Joe Biden for "emptying out our whole country giving them weapons, and we have to make sure that we have enough for ourselves".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2g3qvz0pvo
Snowygerry
Deity
Beijing willing to fight to the last Russian :
amp.scmp.com
Exclusive | China tells EU it does not want to see Russia lose its war in Ukraine: sources
Wang Yi speaks of concern that US could shift whole focus in China’s direction in talks with top EU diplomat Beijing.
amp.scmp.com
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Snowygerry
Deity
Some more poetic justice here :
www.theguardian.com
Deputy commander of Russian navy killed in strike near Ukraine frontline
Maj Gen Mikhail Gudkov personally promoted by Putin and had previously led one of Russia’s most notorious brigades
www.theguardian.com
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Several important Russian commanders were executed lately.Some more poetic justice here :
Deputy commander of Russian navy killed in strike near Ukraine frontline
Maj Gen Mikhail Gudkov personally promoted by Putin and had previously led one of Russia’s most notorious brigades
saamohod
Deity
Damn, it looks like Russia is indeed a puppet/proxy of China and lacks "sovereignty", the word so loved by the Russian propaganda to signify that it's something that Russia has, unlike most of European countries and its neighbors. Add to this another collapsed narrative that "Ukraine is America's puppet", the work of Russian propagandists becomes tough indeed.Beijing willing to fight to the last Russian :
Exclusive | China tells EU it does not want to see Russia lose its war in Ukraine: sources
Wang Yi speaks of concern that US could shift whole focus in China’s direction in talks with top EU diplomat Beijing.
Russian use of chemical weapons against Ukraine 'widespread', Dutch defence minister says
Dutch and German intelligence agencies have gathered evidence of widespread Russian use of banned chemical weapons in Ukraine, including dropping a choking agent from drones to drive soldiers out of trenches so they can be shot, they said on Friday.
Dutch Defence Minister Ruben Brekelmans called for tougher sanctions against Moscow.
"The main conclusion is that we can confirm Russia is intensifying its use of chemical weapons," he told Reuters.
"This intensification is concerning because it is part of a trend we have been observing for several years now, where Russia's use of chemical weapons in this war is becoming more normalized, standardized, and widespread."
Germany's BND foreign intelligence agency confirmed the findings, saying in a statement that it had obtained the evidence alongside its Dutch counterparts. Reuters was first to report on the intelligence.
Dutch and German intelligence agencies have gathered evidence of widespread Russian use of banned chemical weapons in Ukraine, including dropping a choking agent from drones to drive soldiers out of trenches so they can be shot, they said on Friday.
Dutch Defence Minister Ruben Brekelmans called for tougher sanctions against Moscow.
"The main conclusion is that we can confirm Russia is intensifying its use of chemical weapons," he told Reuters.
"This intensification is concerning because it is part of a trend we have been observing for several years now, where Russia's use of chemical weapons in this war is becoming more normalized, standardized, and widespread."
Germany's BND foreign intelligence agency confirmed the findings, saying in a statement that it had obtained the evidence alongside its Dutch counterparts. Reuters was first to report on the intelligence.
Spoiler Rest of article :
America’s ominous new halt on weapons to Ukraine
It may reflect dwindling stocks but Ukraine thinks it is being pushed to make political concessions
America’s ominous new halt on weapons to Ukraine
It may reflect dwindling stocks but Ukraine thinks it is being pushed to make political concessions
BlackRock halted its search for investors for a Ukraine recovery fund earlier this year due to a lack of interest amid increased uncertainty over Ukraine's future.
Russia attacked Kiev and other Ukrainian cities on Friday with the largest number of drones and missiles launched in a single barrage so far in the war, according to the Ukrainian Air Force
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Russia trying to get concessions from Ukraine with the help of Trump and through drone terrorist attacks on citities since it is unable to make any gain in the battlefield.
Ukraine is developing and building cheap interceptor drones which are effective against Russian Shahed copies, though which will massively build with the financial help of several Europeans countries, so logically Putin is trying to exploit the current window for his terror purposes and making the most damage possible. I am highly doubtful it will work beyond murdering some civilians.
Ukraine is developing and building cheap interceptor drones which are effective against Russian Shahed copies, though which will massively build with the financial help of several Europeans countries, so logically Putin is trying to exploit the current window for his terror purposes and making the most damage possible. I am highly doubtful it will work beyond murdering some civilians.
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