Raw fish still is OR requirement for Dried Fish Maker.
Cybernetic factory needing sponge was bit silly, as it was ONLY building needing it, but there are few buildings getting boost with it, but pedia doesn't show that in resource page.
Upload save and dump file so @Thunderbrd can fix that
See I thought so therefore I'm not sure why they are trainable so late. Maybe they just don't have that second upgrade step to cut them off before it seems reasonable for them to fall out of the chart. That said, I did notice something odd has changed lately and I can now train clubmen even though I can also train obsidian axes and swords so I'm wondering if the rules somehow changed on when they fall out. I THOUGHT it was as soon as the next upgrade after the first is made available.
It strikes me that perhaps we should sometimes consider how people would make a synthetic version of something if it made sense to require it - but I'm not sure in this case why that factory would've required it so yeah it makes sense to remove the strange prereq.
As Rax said, I'll need the save. However, I do suspect if you were to run the game with the debug dll for a turn, ignoring all asserts, you'd probably correct that gamestate and be able to continue playing.
You there is save showing that on previous page, go check it - not all cities can build outdated units.
Not saying there's a bug. Just that I am not sure anymore how things are supposed to work there.
Thunderbrd said:
In the Mod's Assets folder you'll find there are two files named CvGameCoreDLL.dll except that one of those has '.debug' added to the end of that file name. Change the one without it to add '.core' then remove '.debug' from the other and run the game for a turn. You'll find it's very slow to process like this and you'll get a lot of popups outside the program that are called 'Asserts'. With all of these, use the Ignore Always option they give you. At the end of the end of turn processing, you can save again, exit the game and reverse those name changes on the CvGameCoreDLL.dll files and go back to playing normally and you will probably have cleaned your game state.
Will do. Many thanks, and Happy New Year!
It's much easier to get Shellfish, so this OR requirement is effectively gone. And Shellfish can be used to produce beads, making this resource strictly superior to Raw Fish. The harder-to-get resource should give you more, not less.
Come again - hard to obtain? Coral reef? Most maps have that pretty much everywhere, hindering your exploring in the early eras more than almost everything else. It's almost the other way around - now these things are completely useless. And sponges were already produced by the Sponge Gatherer (unlocked with Fishing, so this is a PH building).
Someone suggested to add shellfish resource to dried fish maker so I added it here.
Infinite loops cannot be blamed on casual xml changes like these. There are numerous reasons why a game may encounter one - they are the AI's version of a crash usually. This will take some code analysis to see where it's taking place and most likely it should be fixable.
The .Dll was changed 3 times during which these problems started to appear. Did not know that "casual xml changes" were done by the Dll! Learned something new. Anyway this game is currently unplayable. Pity too, was getting to see how the AI and myself were reacting to the lower tier Civic changes I have made. And war was breaking out on my continent. Plus Theodora plopped a city on a mountain top on the southwest corner of my empire. She has Riflemen and Railroads and Steam ships to my Sword, Pike, Axe, Mounted infantry, Light cavalry, and Ballista Elephants.
I'll have to review those changes and see if there's anything there that could cause a delay. It's also possible that nothing changed but the turns and what's taking place in the game itself. Further slowdown takes place as the game develops - it's not always a recent update that brings that about. As has already been established as well, wars create massive delays over what takes place during peacetime. AI war considerations can require a considerable amount of processing delay.
Ok will do.
Yes, but I don't think it was a really good idea. This procedure doesn't work with just any kind of fish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dried_fish). And as I said, Raw Fish (which is based on the Fish resource and should thus be much more valuable than Shellfish, to say nothing about the fact that it is harder to come by) is now pretty much useless. If there is no difference (other than Beads), why not lump them together (even though it would be the exact opposite of what this mod stands for)? Instead, Murex is now probably the most valuable water resource (at least until Industrial): You get Dye (very important from Medieval on), Shellfish, Dried Fish, Beads. Not bad for a sea snail that is between 45 mm and 89 mm in size (source: https://www.researchgate.net/public...in_a_semi-intensive_fish_culture_earthen_pond).
the 10350 svn and the save is still bad. I did make it into the next turn and saved that turn at the 1st opportunity. But if I try to play it same problem.
