Stray (?) Cat Advice.

@Valka D'Ur I blame you.

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He got leftovers.
 
He needs help. Give him food, water and worm medicine.

Worm medicine is in short supply
With the Mu varient spreading Id imagine a lot of random animal medicines are going to be short supply very soon
 
Worm medicine is in short supply
With the Mu varient spreading Id imagine a lot of random animal medicines are going to be short supply very soon

Interesting but I'm not sure if I really get what you mean, it was invermectin right? Now it's any worm medicine even cat's worm medicine?

It seems I have missed something really nuts here.
 
Oh, come on. Whales have language. They have families. They are highly social. They grieve their dead openly, and a mother whose calf dies is comforted by her female relatives.

Elephants are also highly social and grieve their dead. It's actually fascinating how these similarities exist between elephants and whales (I will admit that I don't know if elephants have much of a spoken language, though their body language speaks volumes if you learn how to interpret it).

And gorillas... are you saying you have never heard of Koko the Gorilla? Her story is fascinating.
I think there is a very good chance that some whales are more intelligent than us. Humpback whale song is more complex that human language, and Sperm whale brains are 6 times the size of ours. My point is that without an objective definition of sapience we cannot measure it, so cannot really know.
I guess you're against me, then. I would definitely criminalize puppy farms (and kitten farms and I turned an ex-friend in once her guinea pig-breeding setup took over her living room and reached FOUR DOZEN of them all stacked up in cages; the City has no bylaws governing guinea pig mills, so I told them to think of it as a health hazard, which it was).

But I enjoy pork. I've got canned ham in my pantry, and my favorite pizza ingredients include pepperoni.

Gosh, I guess we can't be friends anymore.
I sure hope not, it is only a political difference. I do not like puppy farms, and I do not want to criminalise pork production. I just think we should not be criminalising stuff without good reason.
 
aren't sub-cutaneous ID chips compulsory for dogs and cats where you live?

Nope.

"Arthur" has a home lined up if need be. Doing flyers tomorrow and door knocking day after that.
 
Nope.

"Arthur" has a home lined up if need be. Doing flyers tomorrow and door knocking day after that.

Here in the 80s it was common Santa bringing pets for kids.
Later, summer was arriving and some families where idiot enough to ignore what to do with the pet on vacations, so some bastards were abandoning the pet in a fuel station in the highway.
Since then chip is compulsory for some pets.
Pet abandonment was reduced and if you find a stray dog or cat, any vet will be able to check who is the owner.
 
Yeah we're gonna get him checked for chip.

If he has been living rough, no chip, not neutered and starving and no responses to us looking he's getting a new home, chip, and neutered.
 
My point is that without an objective definition of sapience we cannot measure it, so cannot really know.
One of the measures is whether or not they use tools. That's a bit unfair to judge whales on that, as they have no hands, paws, or claws (though the actual bones are still there; I read that recently). Whales don't have the means to use tools like some other tool-using animals.

My Gussy was a smart cat (except for the bee incident). He loved going outside, and noticed that the way to do that was for this brass-colored thing on the door to be turned.

He actually tried to do it himself. Of course his paw was nowhere big enough and he couldn't manipulate the doorknob, but he also noticed that it made a rattling sound that attracted my attention. I went over, asked him if he wanted out, and his body language said "Yes, please" so I let him out.

After that, whenever he wanted out, he'd get up on his hind legs, reach up, and slap the doorknob. It would rattle, and I'd let him out. Problem solved, mom-human has been satisfactorily trained.

It was really funny the first time my dad was over when Gussy did that. My dad and I were in the living room, nowhere near the door. Suddenly the doorknob rattled... from the inside, and there were no other humans in the house. My dad got an immediate "WTH?!" look on his face as he tried to figure out how the doorknob could possibly be rattling.

So I told him, "Gussy wants out," and my dad thought it was very smart of my cat to figure this out - understand that the knob controls the door and try to manipulate it himself (and failing that, manipulate the human with the opposable thumbs and hand large enough to make it work).
 
I would hate to post my phone number around the neighbourhood. I would create an email address just for this.
 
One of the measures is whether or not they use tools. That's a bit unfair to judge whales on that, as they have no hands, paws, or claws (though the actual bones are still there; I read that recently). Whales don't have the means to use tools like some other tool-using animals.
Maybe not whales, but there's a pod of bottlenose dolphins just off Western Australia which (who?) use sponges while foraging:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottlenose_dolphin#Tool_use_and_culture

So at least a few members of the order Cetacea are clearly tool-users to at least the same extent as, say, parrots or chimps.
my dad thought it was very smart of my cat to figure this out - understand that the knob controls the door and try to manipulate it himself (and failing that, manipulate the human with the opposable thumbs and hand large enough to make it work).
All the houses I lived in as a child/teen had handles on the internal doors. And both the cats-that-I-remember learned to jump up and pull down on the handle until they heard the latch click, and then — depending on which side of the door they were — either head-butt it open, or scratch at the gap between door and frame until they could hook it open.
 
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Can someone explain what "from their perspective, their relative quality of life matters infinitely more than their life itself" means, how this functions as a rejoinder to someone saying that a cat would probably prefer not to die than to die, and how that was somehow interpreted as a statement that the cat should be forced to have a miserable life to give a human pleasure? I'm having a bit of trouble joining the various dots there.
 
This stupid human tricked me!!!!!

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The Lure
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My revenge.

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He lured me with food and threw me in a box roughly. I totally wasn't clawing him at the time!!!.

Another strange human scanned me for microchips and I like my intact testicles.

Stoopid humans going door knocking with fliers dumbasses. Freedom!!!!!!

He might have a home. He's not that thin according to the vet and he disappeared for a couple of days with crap weather. Scoffed an entire sachet of cat food.
 
This stupid human tricked me!!!!!

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He lured me with food and threw me in a box roughly. I totally wasn't clawing him at the time!!!.

Another strange human scanned me for microchips and I like my intact testicles.

Stoopid humans going door knocking with fliers dumbasses. Freedom!!!!!!

He might have a home. He's not that thin according to the vet and he disappeared for a couple of days with crap weather. Scoffed an entire sachet of cat food.
Do they tell you the result of the chip scan?
 
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