Summer SciFi Thread

I never really liked Damon at all... His role in the talented mr Ripley was ok, but not that great in my view. Good Will Hunting was less good, in fact i ended up not enjoyng the film at all but that was not as much Damon's fault as the screeplay which to me was very basic (i know the film is seen as a great success, i just did not like it).

Other roles of his i have either not seen at all (Bourne films) or liked even less.

Foster iirc became famous for a sex (rape) scene. I recall her in some major films like Contact. Seemed pretty boring to me.

In Silence of the lambs her role was good, but again not really my kind of thing.
You should watch the Bourne films and Inside Man. Judging Jodie Foster by Contact would be like judging Michael Caine by Jaws: Revenge.
 
Felt like posting this, although it is really old:


Link to video.

I still remember one of its episodes. I do not think any other major animation series i have seen had so much cruelty-oriented gore. Also some other things in it were rather alarming as well, such as some person living inside a biomechanical obese humanoid...

"You can't give it, can't even buy it, and you just don't get it" :)
 
If Heroes only had one season, I think it might be one of my favorite sci-fi shows ever. It shouldn't have gone on like it did.

Yah, if it had been canceled early it might have achieved a geekdom status similar to Firefly; as it was, the later seasons made even the first look worse and the whole thing is close to forgotten.
 
Riddick: Rule the Dark

September 6th

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Riddick, the latest chapter of the groundbreaking saga that began with 2000's hit sci-fi film Pitch Black and 2004's The Chronicles of Riddick reunites writer/director David Twohy (A Perfect Getaway, The Fugitive) and star Vin Diesel (the Fast and Furious franchise, xXx). Diesel reprises his role as the antihero Riddick, a dangerous, escaped convict wanted by every bounty hunter in the known galaxy. The infamous Riddick has been left for dead on a sun-scorched planet that appears to be lifeless. Soon, however, he finds himself fighting for survival against alien predators more lethal than any human he's encountered. The only way off is for Riddick to activate an emergency beacon and alert mercenaries who rapidly descend to the planet in search of their bounty. The first ship to arrive carries a new breed of merc, more lethal and violent, while the second is captained by a man whose pursuit of Riddick is more personal. With time running out and a storm on the horizon that no one could survive, his hunters won't leave the planet without Riddick's head as their trophy.

Directed by David Twohy
Vin Diesel
Karl Urban
Katee Sackhoff (Starbuck)

Youtube trailer
 
Okay, in the interests of full disclosure: I'm old enough to think that stuff made in the 50s and 60s is still perfectly good, and not in need of being "remade", as if modern audiences are too stupid to understand the original. This is why there are a lot of modern remakes/reboots that I don't like. The tendency is to dumb the material down to the lowest common denominator, and assume the audience is stupid or would never "get" the original material.*
This is a really good point and I agree with you though I disagree that this covers the full impact of the changes made to the Trek franchise with 2009's Star Trek.


If nuTrek were an improved version, that would be a different story (no pun intended). However, I see no improvement. All I see are cartoon characters with even less depth than those in TAS (The Animated Series).

I can like a remake that's different if it's respectful of the original material. Example: The Man in the Iron Mask. I first saw and fell in love with the Richard Chamberlain version of that movie. It took a very long time for me to make myself watch the Leonardo deCaprio version, and even longer to realize I actually like it. Mind you, that's not because of deCaprio's performance, but that of the older cast members. Still, while it was not (in my opinion) as good as the Chamberlain version, it wasn't completely dumbed down. So eventually I came to like it. But I will always prefer the Chamberlain movie.
What I'm getting is you are predisposed to like something before you've even seen it because of personal biases and only grudgingly accept that it's good - if you even get around to seeing it, which isn't a given.

That's pretty damn presumptuous of you.
Not really. You're opinionated and it's pretty clear to me where you're coming from. I could be totally off, but I don't think I'm presumptuous to base my opinion off of what you've said here and in similar threads. As for presuming to know what the other hardcore trekies thing, yeah I am presuming on that.


The spinoffs suffered from being controlled by the same basic team of people who hit creative burnout. That doesn't mean some other creative people couldn't do something wonderful with continuing on the original storylines. There were certainly enough loose ends left unexplored. And it wouldn't even require any cast from TNG, DS9, or Voyager (ESPECIALLY MICHAEL DORN, WHO ATE NOT ONE, BUT TWO SERIES!!! :mad:).
Yeah, I suppose that's possible. Then again they had 2 movies after First Contact to turn it around (plus Enterprise [the Show]) and failed. Do you know they were the same writers involved as with the old series/movies?


His actions that led to his next demotion back to Captain were actions taken for the right reasons, in my opinion. I'm not saying he did all the right things, but he certainly did them for the right reasons.
Which is what happened in Into Darkness, fwiw.
At no time are we shown that Kirk's demotions were the result of his behaving like a cartoonish jackass.
They were the result of recklessness, bravado and dereliction of duty. It's in his nature as a character, always has been and it shows up in the remake movies. He's not a cartoonish jackass no matter how hard you think it so.

Totally made up.
Damn, now I am disappoint.
Europa Report

June 27th VOD
August 2nd (USA)

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Directed by Sebastián Cordero
Sharlto Copley
Michael Nyqvist
Embeth Davidtz
Daniel Wu

EUROPA REPORT follows a contemporary mission to Jupiter’s moon Europa to investigate the possible existence of alien life within our solar system. When unmanned probes suggest that a hidden ocean could exist underneath Europa’s icy surface and may contain single-celled life, Europa Ventures, a privately funded space exploration company, sends six of the best astronauts from around the world to confirm the data and explore the revolutionary discoveries that may lie in the Europan ocean. After a near-catastrophic technical failure that leads to loss of communication with Earth and the tragic death of a crewmember, the surviving astronauts must overcome the psychological and physical toll of deep space travel, and survive a discovery on Europa more profound than they had ever imagined.

Youtube Trailer
I'm excited about that one as well. It looks like another hard sci fi movie, which is awesome and kind of rare.
Riddick: Rule the Dark

September 6th

Riddick_poster.jpg


Riddick, the latest chapter of the groundbreaking saga that began with 2000's hit sci-fi film Pitch Black and 2004's The Chronicles of Riddick reunites writer/director David Twohy (A Perfect Getaway, The Fugitive) and star Vin Diesel (the Fast and Furious franchise, xXx). Diesel reprises his role as the antihero Riddick, a dangerous, escaped convict wanted by every bounty hunter in the known galaxy. The infamous Riddick has been left for dead on a sun-scorched planet that appears to be lifeless. Soon, however, he finds himself fighting for survival against alien predators more lethal than any human he's encountered. The only way off is for Riddick to activate an emergency beacon and alert mercenaries who rapidly descend to the planet in search of their bounty. The first ship to arrive carries a new breed of merc, more lethal and violent, while the second is captained by a man whose pursuit of Riddick is more personal. With time running out and a storm on the horizon that no one could survive, his hunters won't leave the planet without Riddick's head as their trophy.

Directed by David Twohy
Vin Diesel
Karl Urban
Katee Sackhoff (Starbuck)

Youtube trailer

Crap, the last Chronicles of Riddick movie was awful (and I think they made an even worse straight to DVD cartoon movie after that). Vin Diesel wrote it or was somehow tied up in the creation of the sequel to Pitch Black and he absolutely destroyed really good source material. He made up a fictional universe that was clichéd and impossible to care about and took Pitch Black in a weird direction.

What's funny as hell to me is that when Pitch Black 2 came out, Vin Diesel did an interview where he blasted sequels for being formulaic and cash-cows and stupid but that he got involved in Pitch Black 2 because he just really believed in the story and it was so awesome blah blah blah and then vowed never to do sequels again.

How many pointless Fast & Furious sequels are we at now? :lol:
 
Europa Report sounds pretty legit, at least something that would have been written in the golden age of sci-fi.
 
nuKirk acts like a total tool. OldKirk never did, with the exception of one episode - Obsession - where his toolish-ness was actually a key plot-point.

The new Riddick film looks awful. I'm sure Karl Urban will enter a good performance again though. He was the only bright spark in that last film.
 
Well, we just saw World War Z - nothing like the book, but an edgeofyourseat action thriller. There's a lot of cheap Zombie flicks these days. All you need is a digital camera, some willing friends and some Holloween makeup. But WWZ had pretty good special fx, CG, heavy weapons, a nuke or two and lot's of extras. And it was the raging fast Zombies, with very scary credibility.:eek:

Spoiler :
Though I was disapointed in the end. Apparently Zombies can detect sick people and leave them alone. Only healthy people can be killed (sort of like the State of Texas). So the survivors are innoculated with false flu and civilization is saved again - third time this summer.


'World War Z' is actually the story of Brad Pitt
Warning; more spoilers.
 
Well, we just saw World War Z - nothing like the book, but an edgeofyourseat action thriller. There's a lot of cheap Zombie flicks these days. All you need is a digital camera, some willing friends and some Holloween makeup. But WWZ had pretty good special fx, CG, heavy weapons, a nuke or two and lot's of extras. And it was the raging fast Zombies, with very scary credibility.:eek:

Spoiler :
Though I was disapointed in the end. Apparently Zombies can detect sick people and leave them alone. Only healthy people can be killed (sort of like the State of Texas). So the survivors are innoculated with false flu and civilization is saved again - third time this summer.

That sounds just awful considering how great the book was. :sad:
'World War Z' is actually the story of Brad Pitt
Warning; more spoilers.

How much "deep space" is there between Earth and Jupiter?
Between 600 and 900 million kilometers.
 
According to the latest numbers, so far this Summer, Iron Man 3 is the biggest money-maker, Star Trek the most popular, and After Earth the biggest flop.

Spoiler :
How Prometheus Should Have Ended
 
Took the wife to see Man of Steel today, and I have to say, that in the seemingly endless movie remakes of all the basic modern Heroes - Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Kirkman, etc. - that this one was better than most.

Clark Kent grows up in a typical "Hollywood-Bigot" small town, a bullied outsider and freak, and yet grows up into a fine young man, presumably as a result of the positive influences of two good fathers (and mothers). He's a straight arrow, and when trouble comes calling, his moral compass is ready.

The Kryptonian technology and architecture are creative and compelling, and everpresent, as the arrival on earth of General Zod and his minions continue to display. And yet, as advanced and sophisticated as these aliens are, their disputes always come down to raw, brutal fisticuffs.

This story is so well known, I hardly need to resort to spoilers, but;

Spoiler :
General Zod (Michael Shannon) as villian is a kind of archtype Hollywood jingoist ends-justify-the-means superpatriot militarist. Part Patton, part Curtas LeMay, part Genghis Khan, he's willing to exterminate humanity to recreate lost Krypton. Why? Because Jor-El injected baby Kal-El with the "genetic codex" of the entire Kryptonian race, whatever that means...

The ending is predictable, we've seen it all before. Yet the film is action-packed, with reasonably good special affects and a fairly hot Lois Lane (Amy Adams) side-romance.
 
Ender's Game

November 1st

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In the near future, a hostile alien race (called the Formics) have attacked Earth. If not for the legendary heroics of International Fleet Commander Mazer Rackham (Ben Kingsley), all would have been lost. In preparation for the next attack, the highly esteemed Colonel Hyrum Graff (Harrison Ford) and the International Military are training only the best young children to find the future Mazer. Ender Wiggin (Asa Butterfield), a shy, but strategically brilliant boy is pulled out of his school to join the elite. Arriving at Battle School, Ender quickly and easily masters increasingly difficult war games, distinguishing himself and winning respect amongst his peers. Ender is soon ordained by Graff as the military's next great hope, resulting in his promotion to Command School. Once there, he's trained by Mazer Rackham, himself, to lead his fellow soldiers into an epic battle that will determine the future of Earth and save the human race.

Directed by Gavin Hood
Asa Butterfield
Harrison Ford
Ben Kingsley
Viola Davis
Hailee Steinfeld
Abigail Breslin

Youtube trailer
 
hitler apologia ahoy
 
Yeah, especially since they've cast quite a bit older. One of the most interesting aspects of the book was realizing just how young these kids are when being subject to all this. Not that 12 is a prime time for soldiering, but it's sure as hell better than starting at six.
 
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