Okay, in the interests of full disclosure: I'm old enough to think that stuff made in the 50s and 60s is still perfectly good, and not in need of being "remade", as if modern audiences are too stupid to understand the original. This is why there are a lot of modern remakes/reboots that I don't like. The tendency is to dumb the material down to the lowest common denominator, and assume the audience is stupid or would never "get" the original material.*
This is a really good point and I agree with you though I disagree that this covers the full impact of the changes made to the Trek franchise with 2009's
Star Trek.
If nuTrek were an improved version, that would be a different story (no pun intended). However, I see no improvement. All I see are cartoon characters with even less depth than those in TAS (The Animated Series).
I can like a remake that's different if it's respectful of the original material. Example: The Man in the Iron Mask. I first saw and fell in love with the Richard Chamberlain version of that movie. It took a very long time for me to make myself watch the Leonardo deCaprio version, and even longer to realize I actually like it. Mind you, that's not because of deCaprio's performance, but that of the older cast members. Still, while it was not (in my opinion) as good as the Chamberlain version, it wasn't completely dumbed down. So eventually I came to like it. But I will always prefer the Chamberlain movie.
What I'm getting is you are predisposed to like something before you've even seen it because of personal biases and only grudgingly accept that it's good - if you even get around to seeing it, which isn't a given.
That's pretty damn presumptuous of you.
Not really. You're opinionated and it's pretty clear to me where you're coming from. I could be totally off, but I don't think I'm presumptuous to base my opinion off of what you've said here and in similar threads. As for presuming to know what the other hardcore trekies thing, yeah I am presuming on that.
The spinoffs suffered from being controlled by the same basic team of people who hit creative burnout. That doesn't mean some other creative people couldn't do something wonderful with continuing on the original storylines. There were certainly enough loose ends left unexplored. And it wouldn't even require any cast from TNG, DS9, or Voyager (ESPECIALLY MICHAEL DORN, WHO ATE NOT ONE, BUT
TWO SERIES!!!

).
Yeah, I suppose that's possible. Then again they had 2 movies after First Contact to turn it around (plus Enterprise [the Show]) and failed. Do you know they were the same writers involved as with the old series/movies?
His actions that led to his next demotion back to Captain were actions taken for the right reasons, in my opinion. I'm not saying he did all the right things, but he certainly did them for the right reasons.
Which is what happened in Into Darkness, fwiw.
At no time are we shown that Kirk's demotions were the result of his behaving like a cartoonish jackass.
They were the result of recklessness, bravado and dereliction of duty. It's in his nature as a character, always has been and it shows up in the remake movies. He's not a cartoonish jackass no matter how hard you think it so.
Damn, now I am disappoint.
Europa Report
June 27th VOD
August 2nd (USA)
Directed by Sebastián Cordero
Sharlto Copley
Michael Nyqvist
Embeth Davidtz
Daniel Wu
EUROPA REPORT follows a contemporary mission to Jupiters moon Europa to investigate the possible existence of alien life within our solar system. When unmanned probes suggest that a hidden ocean could exist underneath Europas icy surface and may contain single-celled life, Europa Ventures, a privately funded space exploration company, sends six of the best astronauts from around the world to confirm the data and explore the revolutionary discoveries that may lie in the Europan ocean. After a near-catastrophic technical failure that leads to loss of communication with Earth and the tragic death of a crewmember, the surviving astronauts must overcome the psychological and physical toll of deep space travel, and survive a discovery on Europa more profound than they had ever imagined.
Youtube Trailer
I'm excited about that one as well. It looks like another hard sci fi movie, which is awesome and kind of rare.
Riddick: Rule the Dark
September 6th
Riddick, the latest chapter of the groundbreaking saga that began with 2000's hit sci-fi film Pitch Black and 2004's The Chronicles of Riddick reunites writer/director David Twohy (A Perfect Getaway, The Fugitive) and star Vin Diesel (the Fast and Furious franchise, xXx). Diesel reprises his role as the antihero Riddick, a dangerous, escaped convict wanted by every bounty hunter in the known galaxy. The infamous Riddick has been left for dead on a sun-scorched planet that appears to be lifeless. Soon, however, he finds himself fighting for survival against alien predators more lethal than any human he's encountered. The only way off is for Riddick to activate an emergency beacon and alert mercenaries who rapidly descend to the planet in search of their bounty. The first ship to arrive carries a new breed of merc, more lethal and violent, while the second is captained by a man whose pursuit of Riddick is more personal. With time running out and a storm on the horizon that no one could survive, his hunters won't leave the planet without Riddick's head as their trophy.
Directed by David Twohy
Vin Diesel
Karl Urban
Katee Sackhoff (Starbuck)
Youtube trailer
Crap, the last Chronicles of Riddick movie was awful (and I think they made an even worse straight to DVD cartoon movie after that). Vin Diesel wrote it or was somehow tied up in the creation of the sequel to Pitch Black and he absolutely destroyed really good source material. He made up a fictional universe that was clichéd and impossible to care about and took Pitch Black in a weird direction.
What's funny as hell to me is that when Pitch Black 2 came out, Vin Diesel did an interview where he blasted sequels for being formulaic and cash-cows and stupid but that he got involved in Pitch Black 2 because he just
really believed in the story and it was so awesome blah blah blah and then vowed never to do sequels again.
How many pointless Fast & Furious sequels are we at now?
