The Russians want to harm the US. That, in and of itself, tells you that they will support Republicans at the expense of Democrats.
[RD] Surrender Summit
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The Russians want to harm the US. That, in and of itself, tells you that they will support Republicans at the expense of Democrats.
Zkribbler
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That's why he invaded Georgia twice? Ukraine twice? And why he is meddling in Western elections?
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Lexicus
Deity
That's why he invaded Georgia twice? Ukraine twice? And why he is meddling in Western elections?
Yes to all of that.
People assume Putin's goal is a trivial landgrab. The problem with Ukraine is that about half of its ~40 million population is hostile to Russia. And its GDP per capita is 1/3 of Russian.
Ukraine is one of two post-Soviet states which had GDP not increased, but reduced in post-Soviet period (another one is Moldova).
Russia's economy is unable to swallow this piece. Even integrating Crimea and bringing its 2-million population to Russian living standards is a serious burden.
Ukraine is one of two post-Soviet states which had GDP not increased, but reduced in post-Soviet period (another one is Moldova).
Russia's economy is unable to swallow this piece. Even integrating Crimea and bringing its 2-million population to Russian living standards is a serious burden.
Putin's goal is Russia uber alles. Ukraine is just what he thought he could get in the short run.
In my job I have Russian speaking man from Odessa, he explained it to me very clearly. The thing what west does not understand is that Ukraine is not for Russia just random neutral country. Russians differ countries mainly according history, some of them do not have right to have independency (post soviet republics), some needs finlandisation (post soviet bloc). The others are not in the sphere of influence, Russia do not interfere in countries like Denmark or Netherlands which they have never occupied. This is why for russian media just the flee of puppet president means that Ukrainians are enemies number one, for many russian speaking Ukrainians its actually only source of news. The country is divied, ukrainians vs russians, educuated vs not educuated. The level of Russian propaganda in west is laughable of the level of Russian propaganda in ex soviet countries.
Educated Ukrainians vs uneducated Russians, right?
Wonder how that happened.
Yes
But what about a non-profit hospital that does not own the real estate ?
Meaning the profit on the rent is going elsewhere...
It must be tempting for hospitals to sell off their real estate for a quick boost of money, including for new medical equipment
In effect another money drain on healthcare by the big investor groups.
who owns in the US the hospital real estate ? and is this ownership shift happening ?
Only increasing health care cost further, without adding value to health.
BTW
Could the same thing be the case with education buildings, University real estate.
The cost per student in tertiary education in the US are 50-100% higher than in most OECD countries.
(Primary education cost per student roughly the same, as the teachers salaries)
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Verbose
Deity
He also supported (possibly initiated) an attempted (if failed) coup d'état in Montenegro.
As food for thought - most of those who are hostile to Russia, also hostile to Poland.Wonder how that happened.
Verbose
Deity
No, I think that tends to be rather well understood.
What's going on is a refusal to accept to continue on some kind of essential subservient status to Moscow by most of these countries Russia thinks it has dibs on. It's a refusal to accept that Empire, and a Russian one at that, is the only viable life-form for them.
Ukraine is the main case in point, because Ukraine is so large, and so crucial, of Ukraine goes, that removes a LOT of future potential for an enlarged Russia.
As the Russian saying goes: "When a Ukranian gets clever, he becomes Russian."
The thing about Ukraine now is that in one sense it is trying to come up with ways to be clever without having to become Russian in the process. Too soon to tell how it will pan out, but the Putin government is still doing its level best to scupper the attempt.
Verbose
Deity
Non-causal connection there.
Poland under PIS and Russia under Putin would both be happy as the undertakers of representative democracy and rule-of-law as Western Europeans know them.
That Putin also might like to see the EU and NATO consigned to the Dustbin of history, while the Polish government does not (since it sees these as some of their best guarantees against Russia) just means that the reason Western Europe has issues with both doesn't make them friends as per the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend school of thought.
Definitely non-causal, as I said it's food for thought.
Funny point about representative democracy - animosity of Ukrainian nationalists to Poland and to Russia has much deeper roots and goes back at least to XIX century.
They are mostly arguing about past "heroes", such as Bandera, Shukhevich etc., and events like Volhynia massacre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
Food for thought? Is this a suggestion for Poland to follow suit and retake Lvov?
This is a suggestion to think why many Ukrainians who are hostile to Russia, also hostile to Poland. And whether it's really as much Russia's fault as you were suggesting.
Poland has long ago worked out a very different approach to deal with this hostility, however.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giedroyc_Doctrine
What I don't quite understand is why the summit is called "surrender".
Of course it would be nice if America conceded or surrendered anything, but we don't know any results of the summit at all.
From Russian side there is a leak to the press (probably, deliberate) about some of proposals made on summit:
Of course it would be nice if America conceded or surrendered anything, but we don't know any results of the summit at all.
From Russian side there is a leak to the press (probably, deliberate) about some of proposals made on summit:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...e-made-trump-a-new-offer-on-ukraine-at-summit
Yes, what a terrific idea, hold a "referendum" in territory that does not belong to you and which is totally not controlled by your minions...
That idea is about as useless as it gets. Neither Ukraine nor the West has anything to gain from that. It's a move that would benefit Putin and Putin alone.
That idea is about as useless as it gets. Neither Ukraine nor the West has anything to gain from that. It's a move that would benefit Putin and Putin alone.
FriendlyFire
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Dose it involve two underage Russian prositutes and peeing ?
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