The last Antisemitic Events

[Dostayer]

What recent events in Europe are you talking about? The Ukraine? There does seem to have been an upsurge in anti-semitism in some parts of Europe. But what has it do with the experience of Jews in Iraq and Algeria?

You don't seem to have any focus in this discussion.

Not only
Only Yesterday, a man Killed 4 persons near the Jewish Museum in Brussels, and other Jew were Verbally Harassed in France.
2 of the Persons persons were Israeli, the third was a French volunteer of the Museum

They dragged me into this, and it connected to the history of the Israeli-Arab Conflict, I didn't want to touch this subject here at all...

About the Cross Burning: This is also Dishonorable, but you do forget that Christianity is the Religion of major parts of Europe, while Judaism has a long history of being Discriminated, executed, and expelled (The Alhambra Decree is the famous of all)

 

[IAM]

I personally have nothing against the Christ killers.

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[Borachio]

Who dragged you into this?

Who made you start this thread?

I'm VERY confused.

I personally have nothing against the Christ killers.

That would be the Romans, then? It's a bit late if you do have something against them.

 

[Dostayer]

OK, This thread came to discuss the recent Antisemitic Events in Europe (and in general), not the Israeli-Arab conflict.
I might have made some mistakes, but I never meant it will become thread about Israel.
And what made me Opening this Thread? the last events.
For those who don't know what I'm Talking about

 

[Domen]

I see that you are from Israel Dostayer. What do you think about Jewish Task Force organization?

Here is their forum: http://jtf.org/forum/index.php

Have you heard about them before?

 

[Dostayer]

Never heard of them, I need to check it out
Kahanist? Religions Fanatics, and I think religious Fanatics (and fanatics in general) always causing trouble, they are outlawed here in Israel (the Kahanist Party) and it's for the better.

 

[Domen]

I need to check it out

Ok, thanks.

 

[Dostayer]

They are considered the most extreme group here in Israel, I oppose them and they are thankfully outlawed here you can compare them to Hamas/Christian Zealots, and never managed to get more than 1 seat before outlawed .
Hamas on the other hand won the Elections in the PA...
And I agree, there are many thing that tries to sabotage here in Israel.

 

[Ajidica]

And Lets don't forget the Muslim Immigrants, It really reminds me the Barbarian Invasions into the Roman Empire.

So it doesn't exist in any meaningful sense outside of dated historiography?

 

[Old Hippy]

And Lets don't forget the Muslim Immigrants, It really reminds me the Barbarian Invasions into the Roman Empire.

not that the the Roman Empire ever invaded anyone

 

[Dostayer]

People immigration, natural as always, causes many Empires to fall and to something else to rise.
But the Muslims (especially these from Arab Nations and Africa) came with very different sets of values, and they are generally less tolerant and more antisemitic, Ofcorse every person is different, but from what I heard, they tend to be closed within their community and not to integrate.
I might be wrong about this.

 

[Domen]

People immigration, natural as always, causes many Empires to fall and to something else to rise.
But the Muslims (especially these from Arab Nations and Africa) came with very different sets of values, and they are generally less tolerant and more antisemitic, Ofcorse every person is different, but from what I heard, they tend to be closed within their community and not to integrate.
I might be wrong about this.

You are correct, IMO.

Not only they don't want to integrate, but also Western Europeans don't actually want them to integrate.

Actually, Western Europeans want to LEARN from them, from these Muslims. Check here:

From 2:43 to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk4uDNSPlXE#t=159

"(...) And forget about an American-style melting pot in which immigrants will some day learn to become Swedish. That's a racist idea too. Joving (?) says Swedes are supposed to learn from immigrants and not the other way around: - 'Assimilation is completely out of question.' - 'Who say's that assimilation is completely out of question?' - 'I mean everybody, in all mainstream political parties, media, platforms, etc. they would laugh, laugh about this idea, the word assimilation is a Nazi word in Sweden. (...)"

 

[Dostayer]

And considering from where they came from, I would say this is a really bad Idea...
Oh and About Roger Waters:
On 20 July 2013, during a concert in Belgium, Waters' road crew released a pig-shaped balloon that had been painted with symbols including a Star of David, other political symbols shown including representing fascist, communist and capitalist representations. As the balloon floated over the audience, Waters sang the lyrics to "In the Flesh": "get him up against the wall, that one looks Jewish and that one's a coon, who let all of this riff-raff into the room" while holding "a machine gun replica and wearing a long black leather jacket with a red-and-white arm band reminiscent of a Nazi uniform."[118][119]

 

[Commodore]

Actually criticism of Israel is too often conflated with anti-Semitism when it is actually nothing more than criticism of Israel.

This. I am so tired of being labeled as an anti-Semite simply because I don't nod my head in agreement with everything Israel does. It seems like anyone who disagrees with Israeli policy publicly almost immediately gets shouted down as a Jew-hater and gets portrayed as Hitler reborn.

Jews need to understand that the Israeli government does a great many questionable activities and have committed some terrible atrocities of their own, and the world is a little upset about that. Especially since Israel never admits any wrong doing and acts like everything they do is 100% justified.

 

[Old Hippy]

And considering from where they came from, I would say this is a really bad Idea...
Oh and About Roger Waters:
On 20 July 2013, during a concert in Belgium, Waters' road crew released a pig-shaped balloon that had been painted with symbols including a Star of David, other political symbols shown including representing fascist, communist and capitalist representations. As the balloon floated over the audience, Waters sang the lyrics to "In the Flesh": "get him up against the wall, that one looks Jewish and that one's a coon, who let all of this riff-raff into the room" while holding "a machine gun replica and wearing a long black leather jacket with a red-and-white arm band reminiscent of a Nazi uniform."[118][119]

that actually seems very anti-racist to me, questioning most all political vales and current accepted status quo, sure it uses confronting language and symbols, but you are confronted by values that make you feel uncomfortable

 

[Domen]

This is how it ends when you promote homosexualism and Islam at the same time, in Sweden:


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[Old Hippy]

promote?
not that they were not expecting that reaction, with 6 batten carrying security guards present

 

[Agent327]

This is how it ends when you promote homosexualism

Pray tell, how does one promote 'homosexualism'?

 

[Dostayer]

You can't promote homosexuality, you are born one, you are not turning into one.
I have to say that the video is really disturbing, even I would feel uncomfortable, but you really see the clash of values (if this video is real)...


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[Domen]

Homosexualism is not the same as homosexuality:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homosexualism&defid=4075261