The Mars Chronicles

[Tambien]

I actually just might retcon the whole thing and make that the original map to begin with.

And Christos, it may happen. But not yet.

Please don't! I wrote that as a story that happens after the original map.

 

[SouthernKing]

Please don't! I wrote that as a story that happens after the original map.

OK, that's fine then.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

One more thing I forgot about the AC.

In regards to their oceanic possessions, Malaysia, Singapore, and the Phillippines are plausible. Indonesia, I can see happening if the AC moved in response to this happening again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia.
Borneo I don't think should be a part of it. You could either make them independent or part of the Pacifican Union.

EDIT: Are you also not going to resolve the Japanese Siberia & Japanese occupied South Corea issue?

 

[Tambien]

Why shouldn't they?

Siberia is mostly uninhabited. all the Japanese had to do was march across it until their supply lines got stretched too thin. When they reached a city they cut off the food until that city surrenderred. At this time Russia was in anarchy, so no army resisted.

S Korea was weakened signifigantly by N Korea and then Chinese attacks, so they were easy for Japan to occupy.

 

[SouthernKing]

Or, Japan and SK could have become trade partners, and then SK decided to enter Japan's SoI to protect against Chinese expansionism.

 

[Tambien]

That too.

 

[Red_Spy]

Honestly, most of it is too unrealistic though.

 

[SouthernKing]

Sorry, double post, but in update news:

I have done a small adjustment. The new world map is the World in 2141, with all the secessions and events described by Tambien taking place over the year of 2140, which will forever be remembered as a year of instability.

I have played a little, and in-game I have 2 or 3 update worthy items, (the in game year is 2152 as of the timestamp of this post), plus any non-Mars updates that come up. If anyone wants to write a narrative of an on-Earth event, or if anyone wants to describe a past event on Earth in a little history, most definitely do it. If you don't want to write, but want to suggest items for the story world, that is also fine. Just keep it plausible, and also if you are writing something run it by me via PM before posting so I can make the necessary adjustments and preparations for my updates and also to prevent any unrealistic narratives (i.e. Canadian world conquest, zombie Hitler apocalypse, etc.)

 

[hoplitejoe]

I wouldn't say those narratives are massively unrealistic. A Zombie Hitler apocalypse could totally happen!

 

[Sonereal]

Is there something about non-supranational organizations you're against? I was trying to say that these supra-nations shouldn't be replacing national identities like you're trying to set them up to do. Brazil and the rest of South America joining in a Brazilian-led organization is just as bad because again, space-filling empire.

Especially since Colombia is very much US-aligned. Venezuela, after Peak Oil and provided the leadership remains Chavez-like (unlikely) until Peak Oil, should actually have formed its own political bloc with Bolivia by now. Especially since many are wary of the Portuguese speaking Brazil.

And don't get me started on all the things with "Indiastania".

 

[Tambien]

Think about how world culture would have homogenized with the connecting tech.

 

[Red_Spy]

But, the world is never going to be unified through peace, only war.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Why shouldn't they?

Siberia is mostly uninhabited. all the Japanese had to do was march across it until their supply lines got stretched too thin. When they reached a city they cut off the food until that city surrenderred. At this time Russia was in anarchy, so no army resisted.

S Korea was weakened signifigantly by N Korea and then Chinese attacks, so they were easy for Japan to occupy.

I really think the importance of the statement: "China would never allow Japan to re-militarize" should really be emphasized.

Specifically meaning if this timeline is really borne from our own timeline:
-China would do ANYTHING to block Japanese power.
-Even if South Corea defends itself successfully from a North Corean attack and later falls under Japanese control, it would be a very tenous hold at best.
-Even if the party in power for whatever reasons withholds from intervening against Japanese action,
the people would find it completely unacceptable and do something about it themselves. China has hundreds of thousands of inactive personnel in reserve and a good portion of them are bound to be nationalists/have lingering
As an analogy, if Greece ever encountered the possibility of Turkey becoming overly militarily powerful, they'd do absolutely anything to kill the baby in the cradle in terms of a resurgent Turkey. The same applies here between China & Japan.

I'm basically saying the root of the problem is a strong Japan itself.

What I propose specifically, is that Siberia remains under Russian control, or changes hands into Chinese control. South Corea under Japanese control is somewhat plausible but you're going to have to either justify it with a lot of opposition being encountered everyday or a much simpler route: military-economic cooperative alliance.

 

[Tambien]

When the rebels were fighting to establish the AC the Japs made their move. Basically, the Chiese were too occupied elsewhere to do anything about it.

 

[Red_Spy]

Japan can't get a military up that quick.

 

[Tomorrow's Dawn]

Well, if you are really set on it, perhaps you should start the AC and Japan off against each other in a state of war. But otherwise, I really don't think Japan has a chance, but they ought to stay independent.

EDIT: I agree with Red Spy. And Sonereal's post below me.

 

[Sonereal]

When the rebels were fighting to establish the AC the Japs made their move. Basically, the Chiese were too occupied elsewhere to do anything about it.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You're completely misunderstanding just how much China will pool from all fronts just to make sure Japan NEVER gets back on the mainland.

Ever.

 

[Mosher]

It would take years for the Japanese to remilitarize - it took the Wehrmacht from when Hitler took power to 1939 to take over Poland, and they still took relatively heavy casualties. Plus, China would cut off trade to Japan, thus wrecking their economy.

EDIT - Crossposted with Sone. For an example on why China would never let Japan on the mainland, please follow this link.

 

[Tambien]

YOU are missing the backstory. The world's economy is already in shambles when this is taking place.

Japan remilitarized in secret.

China DID move military. And that is why the rebels won.

 

[Red_Spy]

Your missing realism.

If the economy is wrecked Japan couldn't create a large military. No one can.