The Speech that won the election

[Chiteng]

ZPG is for Zero Population Growth...you'd need the fertility rate to equal the death rate. If Juan and his kids aren't crossing the border...they are still having the kids.

Unless you are arguing that only the US, instead of the world, needs ZPG.

I dont control the world. I am saying that people in the USA breed responsibly.
People external to the USA do NOT.

Illegals represent the attempt by external entities to export the consequence of NOT being responsible, and in fact, they are trying to make ME, pay for their children.
I didnt force them to have children. I do not want the bill. The parents can pay it.

Humans are not lab mice. They ARE able to make decisions about their own breeding.

 

[JollyRoger]

Conservatives serve only for the purpose of fighting illegal immigration.

It seems that immigration enforcement has been higher under Democratic Presidents since at least 1981 and Romney doesn't seem very firebrand about changing that.

I cant argue with the ignorant =/

Agreed.

 

[strijder20]

I dont control the world. I am saying that people in the USA breed responsibly.
People external to the USA do NOT

Compared to it's development level, the Americans have an extremely high natality - fatality rate. No, they're not 'breeding' relatively responsibly, more the other way.
And if you know something about demographics, then you'd know that's it's normal for developing countries to have soaring population growth. After all, the first steps towards a developed society there have drastically reduced death rates, but the birth rates are still at their original high levels.

 

[JollyRoger]

It seems that President Obama has been the more responsible breeder than Governor Romney.

 

[Chiteng]

Compared to it's development level, the Americans have an extremely high natality - fatality rate. No, they're not 'breeding' relatively responsibly, more the other way.
And if you know something about demographics, then you'd know that's it's normal for developing countries to have soaring population growth. After all, the first steps towards a developed society there have drastically reduced death rates, but the birth rates are still at their original high levels.

So what?

The USA has achieved ZPG in its birth rate.
Other countries want to export the excess people to us.
I dont want that. NOTHING you have said, impacts that desire.

 

[JollyRoger]

So what?

The USA has achieved ZPG in its birth rate.
Other countries want to export the excess people to us.
I dont want that. NOTHING you have said, impacts that desire.

I am not convinced you are 100% committed to ZPG. You seem to be stubborn about personally contributing to the death rate side of the equation.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

So what?

The USA has achieved ZPG in its birth rate.
Other countries want to export the excess people to us.
I dont want that. NOTHING you have said, impacts that desire.

The US doesn't have ZPG birth rate.

 

[Leoreth]

Chiteng is to illegal immigration as GhostWriter is to the American Civil War.

 

[Quackers]

you mean completely and utterly obsessed?

 

[dutchfire]

Well, Chiteng does seem to be anti-life (for brown people), while Dommy claims to be pro-life, so there are differences.

 

[Leoreth]

you mean completely and utterly obsessed?

Thread-derailing, was what I was thinking of.

Well, Chiteng does seem to be anti-life (for brown people), while Dommy claims to be pro-life, so there are differences.

I don't think they are very similar, I was only referring to the derailment aspect.

 

[Cutlass]

He could easily enforce the existing laws and close the border. You dont know what your talking about. Lack of money doesnt seem to be stopping his other initiatives.

There are contingency funds for a variety of issues. All he would need to do is invoke one. Just like Johnson did in the sixties. Sadly he only closed it for one week.

The entire United States Army could not close the border. Not that that would matter, because that's not where most of the illegals are coming in.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I was skeptical throughout the clip, but I got to admit that was a pretty funny punchline.

 

[El_Machinae]

I dont control the world. I am saying that people in the USA breed responsibly.
People external to the USA do NOT.

Illegals represent the attempt by external entities to export the consequence of NOT being responsible, and in fact, they are trying to make ME, pay for their children.
I didnt force them to have children. I do not want the bill. The parents can pay it.

Humans are not lab mice. They ARE able to make decisions about their own breeding.

You must dislike Catholicism, then, eh?

I find that the main risk of being fervently anti-illegal-immigrant is that there's a risk of assuming that Hispanics we see on the street are 'probably illegal' in our sub-conscious, and we run the risk of being implicitly racist. It's a real moral hurdle to worry about.

 

[Hygro]

Pollution represents the attempt by external entities to export the consequence of NOT being responsible, and in fact, they are trying to make ME, pay for their pollution.
I didnt force them to pollute. I do not want the bill. The firms can pay it.

There, fixed that for you.

 

[Chiteng]

You must dislike Catholicism, then, eh?

I find that the main risk of being fervently anti-illegal-immigrant is that there's a risk of assuming that Hispanics we see on the street are 'probably illegal' in our sub-conscious, and we run the risk of being implicitly racist. It's a real moral hurdle to worry about.

If only Hispanics were the only illegals. They are NOT. I want ALL illegals stopped, not merely Hispanic. In fact, if I had a choice, the middle east would be far more important to stop.

 

[civver_764]

If only Hispanics were the only illegals. They are NOT. I want ALL illegals stopped, not merely Hispanic. In fact, if I had a choice, the middle east would be far more important to stop.

Why do you get to stay but they don't? What extra thing in life did you do to earn that privilege?

 

[JollyRoger]

Why do you get to stay but they don't? What extra thing in life did you do to earn that privilege?

She was prom queen.

 

[Chiteng]

Why do you get to stay but they don't? What extra thing in life did you do to earn that privilege?

I was born here for one =)

 

[Leoreth]

I was born here for one =)

Sounds more like something your parents did (these irresponsible people!). What did you do to earn it?