bernie14
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Recently, a pretty smart person asked me what can be done about narcissism in America. I really have no idea but i took it more in the interpersonal direction. Now, I'm thinking more about it's impact on society.
The Thread Where We Discuss Guns and Gun Control
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Dekker
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It's called racism.
Cheetah
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You mean daily random massacres.
Cloud_Strife
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The rhetoric espoused in the manifesto is similar enough to trumps own filth that he spews and spewed.
Do you disagree with that?
GoodEnoughForMe
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Terrible. And still the average American day of gun violence is even worse than the total of these two events added up. The freedom of being able to go out in public without fear of getting shot trumps that of owning the things that do so.
We need some politicians to have the courage to own up to the Obama conspiracy that yes, we are coming for the guns.
We need some politicians to have the courage to own up to the Obama conspiracy that yes, we are coming for the guns.
Thorgalaeg
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Being some sort of gun nut myself, i would like to own a big gun collection including all kinds of automatic weapons and 50 BMG sniper rifles, but i understand that the price for society is too high for being able to shoot at some cans of beer at my backyard.
(Well i legally own a couple of old fashioned double-barrel 12 gauge shotguns but you could hardly kill 20 persons with that, maybe 2-3)
(Well i legally own a couple of old fashioned double-barrel 12 gauge shotguns but you could hardly kill 20 persons with that, maybe 2-3)
EgonSpengler
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Right, we averaged just over 100 dead by guns per day in 2017. If these newsworthy incidents compel people to action, then I suppose the attention they get will have served a purpose. The rest of the people killed by guns over the weekend won't fall under the spotlight (which I suppose is how spotlights are designed to work).
The New York Times, 18 Dec 2018 - "Nearly 40,000 people died from guns in the US last year, highest in 50 years"
Thorgalaeg
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That is about 40 times the deaths due to traffic accidents in Spain. Do you guys realise how crazy that is?
Isn't it closer to 20 times?
https://www.statista.com/topics/4188/road-accidents-in-europe/
Roughly 1800 deaths in road accidents in Spain, in 2017.
I suspect that the vast majority of gun-related deaths in the US is from suicides and accidents. And suicide rates are high in many euro countries too (they just don't use guns to do it).
edit: indeed:
linked article said:
Thorgalaeg
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Cloud_Strife
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The GOP are complicit in this and should be held account...
Massacre Mitch indeed.
Hygro
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Nope. I agree with you here.
Cloud_Strife
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So what's the issue then? The shooter was clearly inspired by Trump and his rhetoric, hence his attack and manifesto, is anyone seriously denying there's a link between Trump and white supremacy?
brennan
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It's the other way around: The idea-free-populist Trump is echoing the right-wing talking points.
“Connor Betts, the Dayton, Ohio mass shooter, was a self-described “leftist,” who wrote that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.”
Betts’ Twitter profile read, “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.”
Eagerly awaiting this also being spun as Trump's fault.
EDIT: There's far more here. Notably, he praised the Antifa guy who was killed attacking the Tacoma ICE facility and retweeted the Democratic Socialists of America multiple times.
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Nope, I guess we cannot tie this one to trumps rhetoric. We've reached the stage where the two sides are biting their nails until we find out whether it's an Islamic terrorist or a white nationalist after every atrocity. So we can blame the other side. And score rhetorical points, I guess?
This one seems to be mostly because there is a group of people that want there to be cheap and easy access to tools designed to kill lots of people in short order
This one seems to be mostly because there is a group of people that want there to be cheap and easy access to tools designed to kill lots of people in short order
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Still probably a win if we keep enough of the re re's from getting motivated enough to learn their chemical reactions. In your statistical analysis. The latter winds up being way more intrusive and broad reaching to control. Maybe they'd just be too lazy and choose to jack off instead. So potential problem, I suppose.
Remember when McCain stopped the afraid woman from calling Obama a Muslim?
The current commander-in-chief won't even stop people from joking about shooting Hispanics trying to cross the border. I will accept that the jokes indicate that there is somewhat of a social crisis. But nurturing the joking is a step too far. Another thread is discussing complicity, I would call that complicity
The current commander-in-chief won't even stop people from joking about shooting Hispanics trying to cross the border. I will accept that the jokes indicate that there is somewhat of a social crisis. But nurturing the joking is a step too far. Another thread is discussing complicity, I would call that complicity
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