Cloud_Strife
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The gop doesn't agree with you, sadly.
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The gop doesn't agree with you, sadly.
hobbsyoyo
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And neither does their propaganda network. There was a segment on Fox News this weekend with an expert in mass shootings and the Fox host shut down the expert when he started talking about the obvious links to white supremacy.
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Okay.
Looks like a real bad seed.
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/ohio-shooter-who-killed-9-people-kept-hit-list-and-rape-list
And more.
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I note a small detail in the Dayton story, that police took down the shooter very fast. The report I said claims "within 30 seconds" of the first shot being fired, although I'm not sure if that comes from an objective source, such as a video or a recording. Assuming the report proves to be correct, it's a good example of how "good guys with guns" in fact don't stop bad guys with guns, even when they're right there and they respond about as fast as humanly possible. I seriously doubt these police officers could have been any faster (again, if the report proves to be correct), and still almost 40 people were shot.
And I've said it before, but it's worth saying again: We tend to talk and hear about the people who are killed by guns, but almost 80 people were shot in these two incidents. Many people who have been shot don't just walk it off, with a surgery and a week in hostpital. In some cases, recovery from a gunshot wound is multiple surgeries and months of therapy. In some cases, a gunshot wound leaves a lingering physical injury that dogs the person for a long, long time. We don't know yet whether any of the survivors will be in a wheelchair or peeing into a bag for the rest of their lives.
And I've said it before, but it's worth saying again: We tend to talk and hear about the people who are killed by guns, but almost 80 people were shot in these two incidents. Many people who have been shot don't just walk it off, with a surgery and a week in hostpital. In some cases, recovery from a gunshot wound is multiple surgeries and months of therapy. In some cases, a gunshot wound leaves a lingering physical injury that dogs the person for a long, long time. We don't know yet whether any of the survivors will be in a wheelchair or peeing into a bag for the rest of their lives.
Wow, something like that would have come up during a background check in Canada, because of the personal interviews. The guy is lucky so many people are fighting for his rights to easily access cheap guns
Our firearms license background check is more than just looking at someone's paper history. Good Golly, our police would not be able to access something like that aspect of his juvenile record
But we also have personal interviews in order to get a firearms license, where they phone people who have known you for X number of years and can act as a personal reference
But we also have personal interviews in order to get a firearms license, where they phone people who have known you for X number of years and can act as a personal reference
That doesn't alter the fact that McCain was a nice warmonger and warcrime enabler. Sure, he was more polite to Obama, but saw no issue in putting down a mere citizen when that citizen called out Kissinger for being a warcriminal.
The only people who genuinely buy into Trump's image are aging hillbilly Boomers (see: QAnon). Genuine white nationalists are pretty much all off the Trump train at this point. I don't believe there are any young people who hang on his every word and translate them into violence against minorities (even if they like him).
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We don't believe you Mouthwash. Trump has used rhetoric identical to what the most ardent of white nationalists actually believe, the two are incestously linked.
The latter part of your "text" is also wrong and all i have to do is point you to the topic of this thread; the El Paso Shooting.
I agree. Basically it is a yuge (
) problem to have the president spew racism. It does lead to worse radicalization.
What the living heck is a "genuine white nationalist"? Some type of Scotsman?
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An attempt to downplay the problem at hand. A disingenous and pathetic one at that.
Also another example of brain worms from the GOP:
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In all fairness every one prefers policy that will help "their" clan. Blacks would like policies that help blacks. Gays would like policies that help Gays. AND whites like policies that help whites. Too think otherwise is just foolish. The difference is how much you're willing to hurt others to have your policies adopted.
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Sort of. But it'd probably be more accurate to describe it as areas of demonstrable lack of faith in the conversation. Considering I'm watching the beer bleachers toss cups at the umps, I think he has less of that than I do.
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The really sad thing is that he had ideas, some of those ideas (overhauling trade for one example) were actually good, but under pressure to remain in power he has gone for whatever sells. I don't think Trump actually expected to win, and when he won and then got struck with the russiagate conspiracy he had to shore himself up in power to resist it. Hence his continued catering to the worst of the worst on a number of issues.
That strategy to attempt to overthrow him has been tremendously damaging, not to Trump (he survived it) but for the whole country.
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