The Very-Many-Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread ΛΕ

[sophie]

Brett "I WENT TO YALE" Kavanaugh went to Yale.

 

[Synobun]

Brett "I WENT TO YALE" Kavanaugh went to Yale.

He likes beer.

 

[Takhisis]

And he was a virgin, I have to point out.

 

[Synobun]

And he was a virgin, I have to point out.

Who hires so many women. Such a paragon of virtue.

 

[warpus]

Is that an observation or a challenge?

Everything can be a challenge if you really want.

 

[Takhisis]

I am compelled to ask you, warpus, whether that is an observation or a challenge.

 

[Lemon Merchant]

Moderator Action: May I remind everyone that this is not the TIL thread. This is an ask questions and answer them type thread. Thank you.

 

[Hygro]

why y'all hating on his friends

 

[Takhisis]

'cos dem's nazis, hygro ma boi

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Is complaining about what moderators aren't doing PDMA? Or does inaction being by definition not action make it obviously not any sort of discussion of moderator action, public or otherwise?

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Yes it is considered PDMA.

 

[Synobun]

What Rocket Man said.

 

[Lexicus]

He likes beer.

https://www.brettkavanaugh.beer/

 

[Synobun]

https://www.brettkavanaugh.beer/

nowoman should make a decision abouther body without me touching it first

lol. That's funny. Ugh.

 

[Birdjaguar]

https://www.brettkavanaugh.beer/

I hope that is loose on twitter.

 

[Lexicus]

I hope that is loose on twitter.

It turned up in my Facebook feed, no idea whether it's making the rounds on Twitter, but would be surprised if not.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Did you see that Elaine Chao (McConnell's wife)and sec of transportation) has taken seven weeks of private time from her regular work day over her first year in office? That doesn't include holidays and normal time off. She apparently likes Fridays and other afternoons off.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2018/where-is-elaine-chao/

 

[Chukchi Husky]

No surprise that "they" state that nationalisation is bad.
But let's keep the discussion focused and handle the points made forward one by one and not shift away before one point is properly brought to an end:
below you say they stated: "The moment they point to when everything started to go wrong was when Labour were elected after the end of World War II".

My counter argument to them is that even an anti Labour, and for sure also an anti-nationalisation newspaper did not dare to attack Attlee, the Labour PM directly after WW2, despite the nationalisations he did.
The Daily Mail not dare to say that Labour did it wrong after the end of WW2, because it is not the general opinion of the older generations that experienced the advabtages.
Your friends are ideologigal driven theorists inventing their own history for their own theoretical beliefs.
Agree ?

BTW Attlee did not nationalise British Leyland, that happened much later when Attlee was dead.
Attlee nationalised utilities: gas, electricity, water and nationalised transport like railways, public transport, civil aviation and nationalised basic industries like coal mining, steel and ofc the Bank of England.
I think most citizens of the UK would still prefer that utilities and domestic public transport should be nationalised.
Perhaps your friends are also against the nationalisation of the Bank of England and want it back to be the commercial Bank it was before 1946 ?

They don't read the Daily Mail. They say that the Daily Mail causes people to be afraid to go outside and to blame the victims for their problems.

British Leyland is just the example they use as for why nationalisation is bad. Everything should be run by companies as it creates competition as as they compete with each other, the quality improves and the costs goes down. They're against things like the NHS as they see it as turning healthcare into a bureaucracy and stealing their tax money. They even say that corporations should run the schools.

Wait, hold on: has Chukchi's friend been Boris Johnson this whole time?

One of them has been compared to Boris Johnson to the point where when others try to describe Boris Johnson, they point to them and say that he is an older version of them.

Ah. The famous "the only way to end all wars is conquer everyone" theory. In the US this takes the form that instead of building NATO as an alliance European countries, including the USSR, needed to be straight up vassalized, one way or another, and brought under direct rule of the US. We had the bomb, and had demonstrated the will to use it. That was our moment. Fools let the moment pass and stole the world's opportunity for real peace under enlightened American rule.

It might be partially that, but it might be more "the only way to stop Communism from bringing suffering to everyone".

There is a reason that the plan at the time was called "Operation Unthinkable". America would not have gone along with it - Truman was busy trying to set up the United Nations and handle all the brewing decolonization conflicts. The British general staff rejected the plan as militarily unfeasible. Further, there is basically no chance any of the Dominions would have gone along with it. Australia and New Zealand were starting to drift to the American orbit due to the small role the UK played in the Pacific Island campaigns. India had made it clear they were leaving, and it is doubtful Canada would have gone along with it. Britain's strength in the war came from ruling an empire that covered a quarter of the world and a fifth of its population - not because Albion is endowed with some mystical power to emerge victorious is all situations.
As an aside, why should Churchill have been re-elected? The Tories were still closely associated with the interwar period and the mass unemployment - like the Jarrow March- while Labour had distinguished itself in office during the Wartime Coalition. Labour had a plan to rebuild bombed out houses and cities -echoing Lloyd George's "Home for Heroes" campaign- while the Tory manifesto was basically "I guess people like the Beveridge Report". Plus, Churchill put his foot in his mouth on numerous occasions, such as commenting that a Labour government would see Gestapo kicking down your door in five years. That would be a tactless thing to say now, let alone while the Second World War was still raging. Small wonder the Tories wiped out in the 1945 General Election.

I don't know much about post war history in Britain. The furthest I ever got in learning history in school was the Night of the Long Knives (I spent nearly three years learning about Weimar Germany and the rise of Nazi Germany, it made me want to give up on taking history any further).

Seriously Chukchi, your friends are morons. The taxation of aristocratic estates to fund social welfare policies began in 1910 with the People's Budget. Labour as a mass political party wasn't really a Thing at this stage, so the People's Budget was championed by the Liberals -lead by Lloyd George- and, guess who? Winston Churchill.

That goes against what they told me. They said that after the war, the aristocrats were taxed and so the aristocrats decided to blow up their property and possessions in order to avoid paying taxes. They also go on about how taxing the rich never works, because the only thing that happens is that it causes the rich to leave the country. They've even said that the current rate of corporation tax is too high.

No, it is a reference to Labour's 1983 manifesto which was very left wing -unilateral nuclear disarmament, withdrawing from the EEC, and mass nationalization. Strong arguments have been put forward that the manifesto was intentionally sabotaged by some on the Labour right who wanted to "discredit" Foot in order to force Labour to swing right. Labour was also hamstrung by the defection of several of its most prominent members to form the SDP, splitting the anti-Thatcher vote. (Fun fact, the anti-Thatcher vote (Labour and SDP) combined got over 50% of the vote -the Tories just got 42%, but somehow the Tories ended up with an over 150 seat majority. Best argument against FPTP I've seen in a while.)

I think I've mentioned before that they're mostly anti-democratic, yet call the UK the most democratic country on Earth because no other country would have a referendum to leave the EU.

If morons like that god university degrees, I pity the state of the British education system.

I guess it shows how stupid I am. I couldn't get into university.

Chukchi, these friends of yours may have university degrees which you do not have, but they are telling you logically flawed arguments that also are based on partially or completely untrue information.

They keep telling me that they are completely logical and unbiased.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

They keep telling me that they are completely logical and unbiased.

Which is why the first thing I said about them was "anyone who considers right after world war two to be when things started to go wrong has to be treated with suspicion." It takes neither a degree nor a genius to realize that world war two clearly indicates that things were going wrong well before that.

 

[Takhisis]

One of them has been compared to Boris Johnson to the point where when others try to describe Boris Johnson, they point to them and say that he is an older version of them.

Run away!