The Very-Many-Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread ΛΕ

[cardgame]

It sounds to me like those regulations were made to be disregarded, by someone who's never done landscaping work. Or who lives in a very empty town...

Of course I'm not an expert, but my brother is actually a foreman for a landscaping company, maybe I could ask him.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Commercial property has to have such things done during non business hours, since during business hours the lot is full of cars. In all likelihood any applicable ordinances will reflect that in locations that are zoned commercial. That's a big part of why residential property value is adjusted down when it is adjacent to commercial property.

Side note: in most places a protest that blocks access is a protest that is being conducted illegally and is about to send some participants to jail.

The parking lot is not full on the weekends. It's the coporate headquarters of Yard House restaurants. It's empty on the weekends.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

In the desert, blowers and vacuums are used for the actual cleaning up of parking lots, even parking lots that don't have any adjacent grass. That's the part that really does have to be done during off hours.

A long time ago I lived in an apartment that was buried pretty deep in a large complex. To get to my parking area next to my building I had to wind through the sprawl, but there was a commercial building with a big square parking lot behind it and that lot was separated from my parking space by a narrow little drain. I could pull directly into their lot in the evening and be out before it even started to fill up in the morning, so I did...until they hassled me about being in the way of their night sweepers.

Yeah they're not mowing grass they are cleaning the litter and grime since it doesn't rain for 9 months straight.

 

[tjs282]

The unions was one of the reasons why the UK has no industry, the other reasons being the Labour party, nationalisation and the EU, with the UK almost becoming a Communist banana republic until Margaret Thatcher was elected and saved the country. Why German industry is a success isn't because of the unions but the strong work culture where those at the bottom are satisfied when those at the top are rewarded because it shows that the company is a success.

Sorry, but was that sarcasm? Or were you quoting your 'friends' again?

Because nearly every word of what you just said wrote was wrong.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

The parking lot is not full on the weekends. It's the coporate headquarters of Yard House restaurants. It's empty on the weekends.

Only rocket scientists work on weekends. Us mere plebeians who operate groundskeeping equipment are busy with barbecues and such on the weekends.

Yeah they're not mowing grass they are cleaning the litter and grime since it doesn't rain for 9 months straight.

You're exaggerating! It rained in March, maybe even April.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Only rocket scientists work on weekends. Us mere plebeians who operate groundskeeping equipment are busy with barbecues and such on the weekends.

I mean sure I'm just saying the justification that they can only leaf blow at 5-530am on weekdays because cars is weaksauce.

You're exaggerating! It rained in March, maybe even April.

I remember paying attention to the weather forecasts then and realizing you were getting more rain out in the proper desert than we got down here in Irvine. Barely a drop.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

Sorry, but was that sarcasm? Or were you quoting your 'friends' again?

Because nearly every word of what you just said wrote was wrong.

It's what I was repeatedly told by them. I don't know anything about history or economics, I guess that shows how stupid I am because they say that economics is the easiest thing to understand in the world. The moment they point to when everything started to go wrong was when Labour were elected after the end of World War II.

 

[Takhisis]

No, no, Chuchki, their saying that economics is the easiest thing to understand in the world is what shows how stupid they are. Well, and more or less everything lese you tell us they say.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It's what I was repeatedly told by them. I don't know anything about history or economics, I guess that shows how stupid I am because they say that economics is the easiest thing to understand in the world. The moment they point to when everything started to go wrong was when Labour were elected after the end of World War II.

When someone points to after world war two as "when everything started to go wrong" I suggest you treat everything they claim as highly suspect.

 

[Takhisis]

Tim, you might not have been given a dose of Chukchi's friends, but they are the type who genuinely think that the British Empire taking over the world with drug-and-slave trafficking was the best time in history ever.

 

[cardgame]

Your friends know nothing about anything, Chukchi. I wouldn't trust them in the slightest. I mean, how many times for how many years have you come onto this forum with their lunacy, and everybody here told you it was lunacy? I don't mean to suggest that we are infallible or anything, but we don't really have incentive to lie and many of us argue with each other but we can all agree on this thing.

 

[Synobun]

This whole "your friends are idiots" approach is kind of pointless. They'll just say the same thing about all of us but they automatically win out due to proximity and knowing Chukchi.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I have friends that are idiots. I see no reason to tell them what you guys say about them. I don't even tell them what I say about them. That doesn't mean that they are any less the idiots.

 

[Synobun]

I have friends that are idiots. I see no reason to tell them what you guys say about them. I don't even tell them what I say about them. That doesn't mean that they are any less the idiots.

That's fine, of course. But with Chukchi fact-checking them here, it likely means he returns to them with retorts or a resisting thought. They would inevitably ask where he got such drivel from (same as we do) and then inevitably denigrate the source of such drivel (same as we do).

 

[Takhisis]

OK, let us take that as valid. What is the alternative?

 

[Ajidica]

It's what I was repeatedly told by them. I don't know anything about history or economics, I guess that shows how stupid I am because they say that economics is the easiest thing to understand in the world. The moment they point to when everything started to go wrong was when Labour were elected after the end of World War II.

In general, anytime anyone says economics is "the easiest thing to understand in the world", you can safely and immediately classify them as either a liar or an idiot.

If you are interested in learning more about post-war economics and the Labour/Tory preference for state-directed capitalism, I recommend you take a look at Barry Eichengreen's The European Economy since 1945: Coordinated Capitalism and Beyond.
https://www.amazon.com/European-Economy-since-1945-Coordinated/dp/0691138486

The tl;dr version of Britain's post-war economic situation is that they were broke with massive domestic issues and wide ranging imperial commitments. The Beveridge Plan was widely popular during the war and even the Tories tried to implement it in their manifesto, but only half heartedly. The preference toward economic planning with full employment lead to Macmillan -a Tory- saying that Britain "never had it so good". It is telling that under Macmillan, Eden, and especially under Heath, the Tories were generally aligned with Labour on the need for state directed capitalism and full employment. They were never super into the worker control boards but Heath's proposal for the trade unions (can't remember what is was called at the moment) was basically a desire to copy the German system. The British economy only started to fall apart with Heath's asinine "dash for growth" which lead to the government jerking the economy around with massive expansionary measures backed up by savage contractionary measures once it looked like the expansionary measures might start doing something. The myth of Labour poor economic policies -exemplified by the 1976 IMF- basically only occurred because the Treasury civil servants lied to Callaghan's government. (In interviews after the fact, Healy all but says the Treasury lied to him and there was no need for the IMF loan.)

Got a bit more than tl;dr, but Labour was fundamentally correct in how to manage the economy, at least prior to their "longest suicide note in history" period.

 

[Synobun]

OK, let us take that as valid. What is the alternative?

Ideally, Chukchi should be able to discern the legitimacy of their claims by himself. We can tell him his friends are idiots and not really friends, and we might be accurate in that, but it's pretty much pointless to express. They're his friends, he trusts them. Not enough to truly take them at their word, but enough that he needs help in parsing why or how they're incorrect.

You could conceivably trace the source of this to Chukchi's reputation here (the low self-esteem, which is self-admitted so I hope this is not seen as an attack), and the solution to that would be empowerment. And, frankly, you don't really empower people by insulting the company they keep.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

How does them being idiots imply that they aren't really friends?

 

[Synobun]

He's posted before that they are rather rude to him and belittle any attempt at independence.

 

[Takhisis]

They've been trying to convince him that he's an idiot and he should outsource his thinking to them.