The Very-Many-Questions-Not-Worth-Their-Own-Thread Thread 36

[Timsup2nothin]

They might put razor wire on top, though. I guess they could dig a tunnel underneath.

Climb ladder. Throw heavy blanket over razor wire. Maybe throw second one if you are really cautious. Climb over.

The effectiveness of walls and fences can be easily measured by going to a prison. They have at most a mile or so of fence line, and no shortage of material to work with. Yet they rely on guards as the only real way to keep the inmates in. Fences are to slow them down for the guards, not to keep them in. So any wall/fence idea that doesn't include a guard tower every quarter mile or so, ie about eight thousand towers, is pointless.

 

[peter grimes]

Ahem. I believe the technical term is "ISIS prayer rug"

 

[tjs282]

I really don't understand the wall. Unless they plan to build it out to the middle of the ocean, couldn't people just go to the coast, get a boat and go around?

You wouldn't even need a boat, at the San Diego end of the (existing) wall:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Borderbeachtj.jpg

...just swim out about a quarter mile on the south side, then body-surf back in on the north side. Be easiest to do this when (if) the wind is from the south, I guess, because otherwise the prevailing offshore currents run north-south...

Of course, you'd be arriving in just your boardies (and whatever you could fit in the pockets), but if you're that desperate to enter the US...

 

[aimeeandbeatles]

You could probably walk around that on low tide.

 

[Gori the Grey]

I really don't understand the wall.

You're in good company. That's also true of its primary proponent.

 

[Synobun]

Walls just work, folks. Don't worry about it.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Like wheels. Wheels and walls.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

You could probably walk around that on low tide.

That far south tides are not all that big.

 

[civvver]

Lunch that was probably not up to health inspector standards was provided along with a few coolers of water, but bathroom facilities consisting of 'giving back to the field' being all that was provided is also illegal.

And that's how we got e coli outbreaks

 

[Broken_Erika]

Like wheels. Wheels and walls.

What about a Wall on Wheels?

 

[Cutlass]

I thought it was Mexicans.

I really don't understand the wall. Unless they plan to build it out to the middle of the ocean, couldn't people just go to the coast, get a boat and go around?

Very nearly all illegal immigration into the US doesn't come across the land they want to build the wall across.

Think of the wall as basically a huge billboard to racism. That's really what it is. Racists want it as a physical sign of their racism.

 

[Cutlass]

Right, I suspect it will come largely as a hypothetical: This farmer (on a small scale) resolved to use all citizen workers, and to do so, he found he had to pay them this much. So that gives us a measure of how much more would have to be paid across the nation if all agricultural labor in the nation were done by citizens. And that would add X to the average person's price of groceries.

You'd also have to outlaw importation of produce. Farmers who try to hire Americans find that they run out of money before they get the labor they need.

 

[Gori the Grey]

Ah, c'mon people. Stop telling me what's hard about doing such an analysis. There's gotta be somebody who's plowed through all those difficulties.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

And that's how we got e coli outbreaks

Maybe. I think most produce goes through so many processing stages that what happens in the field stays in the field, but I could be wrong. I know that most people 'giving back to the field' took pains to avoid getting anything on the produce that we were about to handle so it seems like a minor threat at best. I'd say those handling stages are more likely to be the problem, either through being the source themselves or at the very least failing to do what they are expected to get done.

 

[shadowplay]

What are the best Spanish language news sources for international news? Preferably with a focus on Latin America rather than Europe.

 

[cardgame]

That's a tough question, given that (almost?) none of the latin american countries have full freedom of the press. Best bet would probably be something from Uruguay or Chile I would guess, or possibly Costa Rica.

 

[Takhisis]

You'd better get a mix of sources in and sift the truth out from between them. There's no such thing as a totally unbiased source down here these days, but there definitely is a difference between ‘embittered-yet-trying-to-stick-to-facts’ and straight-up Breitbart-style lunacy.

 

[shadowplay]

What do you think are the best sources for news on what's going on in Venezuela right now, regardless of whether in English or Spanish? Anything better than BBC?

 

[Takhisis]

Hmmmm. I'd say go with infobae, but the bias of the reporters can range from nonexsitent to heavy. I've been reading them for years so I can tell immediately whether the writer of any particular article is anywhere near neutral or not.

But since Venezuela actually has a delusional man for president (he claims he can see the future and receives orders from Hugo Chávez from the afterlife while his people actually starve and/or flee the country by the million) Poe's law is heavily in operation.

 

[Synobun]

Hmmmm. I'd say go with infobae, but the bias of the reporters can range from nonexsitent to heavy. I've been reading them for years so I can tell immediately whether the writer of any particular article is anywhere near neutral or not.

But since Venezuela actually has a delusional man for president (he claims he can see the future and receives orders from Hugo Chávez from the afterlife while his people actually starve and/or flee the country by the million) Poe's law is heavily in operation.

How did Trump get himself elected in Venezuela?