Trump Assassination Attempt.

[Core Imposter]

Turns out that the Secret Service did not have radio contact with the local cops. Communications via text. Government is inept. Incredibly so. And this was the first rally that Trump had USSS countersnipers. It almost feels like intentional neglect, reminding that before that day Kennedy had zero protection.

And all of this is in the news now which makes it more likely that a copycat will be emboldened to try their hand before election day.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Trump's a billionaire, he can pay for all additional protection ne feels he needs.

 

[Core Imposter]

Trump's a billionaire, he can pay for all additional protection ne feels he needs.

Actually no. Security starts with intelligence that private citizens can't access. But you really aren't seriously addressing the issue are you?

 

[amadeus]

Trump's a billionaire, he can pay for all additional protection ne feels he needs.

We are fighting to defend democracy… and that starts with the right for Donald Trump to organize his own private paramilitary outside of government control.

 

[Gorbles]

We are fighting to defend democracy… and that starts with the right for Donald Trump to organize his own private paramilitary outside of government control.

Yes, that's what was being suggested. Bravo.

 

[amadeus]

Yes, that's what was being suggested. Bravo.

If I didn’t say it explicitly before a in the post means it should be taken a bit more facetiously than if I were posting like now.

The point is I don’t think it would be good to make private the security of major candidates to the presidency. What’s the rationale for doing it? How rich should you be to get protection, or not get it? What if somebody gets in the White House and then only gives protection to members of their party?

 

[Gorbles]

If I didn’t say it explicitly before a in the post means it should be taken a bit more facetiously than if I were posting like now.

The point is I don’t think it would be good to make private the security of major candidates to the presidency. What’s the rationale for doing it? How rich should you be to get protection, or not get it? What if somebody gets in the White House and then only gives protection to members of their party?

I should use more emoji then!

The point is that former Presidents are subject to protection. That's law, apparently, regardless of whether or not anyone likes the person in question. But the level of attention isn't guaranteed. This is where the private sector comes in for all those that defend that model. Which you do, right? You're not one of those dirty commies like myself

 

[Strong Reaction]

Here are a couple of links that show what Tim Kennedy thinks about the assassination attempt. Tim Kennedy, is a Fox news contributor and I think currently active in the Special Forces. He has too many military accolades to list and I consider him an expert. He may even have had participated in Secret Service details, not quite sure about that. The bottom line is reliable source on the subject of small unit military tactics. I am not in full agreement with his politcal stance, but I do agree with most of what he says. The first video is a bit of an abstract: a summary of salient points and the second is a deep dive interview about his thoughts on the assassination.

Side note: he is a pretty interesting character, former MMA fighter with a pretty distinguished career plus his military service and various deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq.

I like his message an the end of the video. "Stay safe, stay free and NO political violence".

Just to point out Trump holds a ridiculous number of rallies. TBH it makes the Secret Services job that much more difficult when you have to service so many events. 37 + rallies, this year alone, for a former President and that's not counting all the other events he attends, UFC events etc, he certainly takes on a lot of risk.

 

[amadeus]

I should use more emoji then!

The point is that former Presidents are subject to protection. That's law, apparently, regardless of whether or not anyone likes the person in question. But the level of attention isn't guaranteed. This is where the private sector comes in for all those that defend that model. Which you do, right? You're not one of those dirty commies like myself

Defend that what model? I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to get at and what I said that was so out of convention.

 

[Gorbles]

Defend that what model? I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to get at and what I said that was so out of convention.

The joys of the private sector as a remedy for ills, for those who can afford it. As supposed to a more communal or, ahem, socialised model.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

*Update*
House of Representatives releases final report on the assassination attempt on (now) president-elect Trump.

tl;dr it's unclear who was supposed to be patrolling the areas which overlooked the venue but which weren't necessarily screened by law enforcement (e.g. the glass business where the shooter fired from): was it for the local police or the secret service to do?
Also communications failures, too. I see pg48 mentioned a local cop warned of the potential danger that could come from that area, was told his message was acknowledged by Secret Service, but they themselves don't remember this (!).

And obviously the recommendations are "more manpower!" but that'd be the solution to any problem.
So I don't think outdoor venues for heads of state in the US will be in our future for quite some time...

FINAL REPORT: Task Force Concludes its Investigation, Releases Report Text on Findings and Policy Recommendations

Washington, D.C. -- Today, the Task Force on the Attempted Assassination of Donald J. Trump released adopted report text, “Final Report of Findings and Recommendations.” The report text, unanimously approved by the Task Force on December 5, highlights significant failures in the planning...

taskforce.house.gov

(PDF here):

https://taskforce.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/july13taskforce.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/12-5-2024-Final-Report-Redacted.pdf

 

[JollyRoger]

One way to mitigate the risk is to not allow felons to run for President. In the golf course example, the shooter was being approached by a convicted felon and his armed protection . . . in Florida . . . with a stand your ground law that protects shooters against threats as low as skittles wielding teenagers.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

Do you consistently try to go for the worst takes on anything?

 

[danjuno]

Do you consistently try to go for the worst takes on anything?

 

[Farm Boy]

Do you consistently try to go for the worst takes on anything?

The take seems about right to me.