Trump Assassination Attempt.
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Trump really did come close to losing a chunk of his head.
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The model is a bit questionable with 3 identical bullets in a row, but it does show how his head was moving around.
This 3D model shows just how close Trump was to being assassinated
Account Point Consciousness created the rendering, showing the former president just centimetres from disaster.
metro.co.uk
The model is a bit questionable with 3 identical bullets in a row, but it does show how his head was moving around.
Farm Boy
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It couldn't have been written better.
Edit: I'm finding I am having a more difficult time arguing against the semi-believable conspiracy theories in meat space than normal. Entrapment(but not "entrapment" the illegal kind) by law enforcement agencies seems so normal(baiting highschoolers to buy weed with hot 20 year old undercover agents in highschools in the early 90s/Ruby Ridge and the sawed off shotgun/the Michigan governor plot), where they create or push along the situation that goes wrong thus essentially creating crime to punish, that the most compelling point I have left is that I could have hit that shot with iron sights and a crap .22 at 20 years old. And I wasn't a good rifleman.
Edit: I'm finding I am having a more difficult time arguing against the semi-believable conspiracy theories in meat space than normal. Entrapment(but not "entrapment" the illegal kind) by law enforcement agencies seems so normal(baiting highschoolers to buy weed with hot 20 year old undercover agents in highschools in the early 90s/Ruby Ridge and the sawed off shotgun/the Michigan governor plot), where they create or push along the situation that goes wrong thus essentially creating crime to punish, that the most compelling point I have left is that I could have hit that shot with iron sights and a crap .22 at 20 years old. And I wasn't a good rifleman.
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I'm not surprised by the amount of people in this forum advocating murder of supreme court judges and presidential candidates
The left is far more antidemocratic, violent and downright fascist than Trump could ever be.It's the same with cases like Yusra Khogali or Darrell Brooks - if you are marching side by side with actual racists, you are *worse* than Trump, not better.
I'm sorry, I was under the impression you were able to reason along economic lines. Scarcity kind of justifications. You rely on them a lot. And now you're saying for something that's most definitely a problem upstream, whether it be funding, allocation of some other sort, or whatever, that "the word scapegoat has no meaning"?
This is, of course, assuming that such an individual warrants around the clock Secret Service detail, which Google reliably tells me has only been a thing since 2012.
Alrighty. Best not to ask questions then. Don't think about it too much.
Lexicus
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But were you 'get kicked out of the gun club' bad?
Lexicus
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Also if we're doing Secret Service conspiracy theories I have $50 million that says the wiped phone data from Jan 6th was evidence of Secret Service involvement in Trump's plot. Major Biden did nothing wrong
Where were you on Jan 6 when Trump had his minions attempt a coup?
Lexicus
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I'm not surprised by the amount of people in this forum advocating murder of supreme court judges and presidential candidates
Hey fellas is it fascist to think fascism should be resisted by force
Ziggy Stardust
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No they're not.I'm not surprised by the amount of people in this forum advocating murder of supreme court judges and presidential candidates
Hey, that was easy. Do another one
I know, go: the election was rigged! We have the Kraken! That's always a good one.
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I agree, often enough, with scarcity arguments. I will argue more for the near impossibility of protecting a fat man at a county fair. But, it's the Secret Service, is the argument you're actually making that the whole thing was underfunded to such an extent that it caused this, thus shifting blame away from the Secret Service and its master? I mean,
I think I could use it explained, seeing as I don't find that reasoning compelling.
Oh, I don't blame any one party, I wouldn't know enough to comment. But I understand staffing and training pretty well, and how they tend to evaporate at the first sign of cost.
Certainly, the resigning is symbolic more than it heralds any actual change. At least to me.
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What is it when people are encourging more useless shots than me to stand up and get annihilated?
That's some Hundred Flowers level ****.
warpus
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What would have happened if the assassin was successful?
I mean, I get that it'd be hard to predict, but politically speaking would it have helped the Republicans or hurt them? Who's next in line after Trump? Would Biden have stepped down the same way? What might have played out differently?
I mean, I get that it'd be hard to predict, but politically speaking would it have helped the Republicans or hurt them? Who's next in line after Trump? Would Biden have stepped down the same way? What might have played out differently?
This is the entire basis of the right's schtick against Antifa.
Klaus Hergersheimer
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Presumably the Republican Party would've gone with its hat in its hands to Ron Desantis and asked him to run again. But I'm not sure. I'm trying to think of an instance in the US where a party frontrunner and/or nominee was killed before an election and I don't remember. George Wallace was wounded in the Democratic primaries in 1972, dropped out of course, but became a governor later.
btw, did some random digging and the guy who shot George Wallace is off parole next year 2025(!). gosh I didn't even know he was released...
Arthur Bremer - Wikipedia
Lexicus
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The original RFK was the Democratic frontrunner in 68, but that was a different timeline - LBJ announces he won't run in March and then RFK is shot at the beginning of June.
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And they are right. Radical leftists are no better than any other extremist radicals. They are all just extremists looking for a cause to give them an excuse to live out their power fantasy of beating everyone else into submission.
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You should note that Crooks took his shot after it became apparent that Biden was likely to lose to Trump, and just a few hours before Trump named a successor and after Crooks failed it took the Democrats two shakes to dump Biden.
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Vance is now next in line. I suspect the upside to killing Trump is less now than it would have been if Rubio had been chosen. Rubio would be acceptable to the Deep State. I like him myself.
If you want to massage the conspiracy theory further, the attempt on Trump was made just after Trump passed on naming Rubio. Butler represented the moment of peak panic and desperation.
All coincidental, we would be told. At any rate, it is now up to Harris to prosecute the case against Trump. We can pick up the conspiracy theories again if and when Trump is killed, which doesn't seem unlikely if the new polls look as bad once they settle as they did before the switch.
If the powerbrokers and national security apparatus in Washington really think Trump is as dangerous as we are told he is, what would really stop them from taking extreme measures? Given all the things our government has been caught doing people can't really be blamed for entertaining suspicions.
And certainly, Trump has exploited that belief himself.
The best argument against the many conspiracy theories are the doubts that we have about our government being competent enough to pull them off. Certainly we have no illusions about them being constrained by moral concerns.
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