Trump explained - because you all are blind

[Ziggy Stardust]

With Bush and Trump surrounding and contrasting him, at least the Republicans made sure that Obama will reflect well in history.

 

[Lexicus]

watching all those "there's absolutely no way Clinton can lose!" people being forced to eat crow was really the only thing for me to get excited about.

There are few things more satisfying than all the elite educated liberal SJW heads that exploded when he won the presidency.

I have to admit a bit of guilty pleasure at seeing the special snowflake SJWs eat crow

This perfectly captures the fact that most of Trump's voters are basically trolls who care more about pissing off liberals than about the public good (let alone the Constitution or the high-minded ideals that the US is supposedly founded on). This is a highly dangerous situation for American democracy.

 

[NovaKart]

This perfectly captures the fact that most of Trump's voters are basically trolls who care more about pissing off liberals than about the public good (let alone the Constitution or the high-minded ideals that the US is supposedly founded on). This is a highly dangerous situation for American democracy.

And yet I didn't vote for Trump and would not have done so if I wasn't living in Iraq without a passport for most of the campaign.

The left might want to look at the petty infighting that drives people like me to the right despite me being gay but I don't think people screaming over cultural appropriation and other insanity at unversities bought Trump the election.

And despite my annoyance with those at the far left I do not support Trump.

 

[Thorgalaeg]

I mostly agree with OP, Trump won because he openly lacks intelligence, education, formation, talent, honestity, hard work, convictions, and any other human virtues, and even then he is a winner who succeeded in business, can get all the girls and can keep his hair (we dont know how). Average Joe who as Trump lacks any of said qualities will identify with his natural leader easily, supporting him with his vote and making Trump an even bigger winner and himself an even bigger loser.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

This perfectly captures the fact that most of Trump's voters are basically trolls who care more about pissing off liberals than about the public good (let alone the Constitution or the high-minded ideals that the US is supposedly founded on). This is a highly dangerous situation for American democracy.

You left out that while not caring for the public good they don't even care about their own good. The average Trump supporter would vote for having a pike rammed up their butt, as long as they got to see it done to a liberal first.

 

[civver_764]

You guys gotta look at what Trump represents. His victory was proof that the people actually have more power than the establishment. And right now what we're seeing with all these "anonymous leaks" is the establishment trying to remove him because they can't control him. That scares me way more than anything about Trump. This is not a precedent we want to set.

What you guys gotta realize, is that many people do think Trump's policies are for the public good. That's why he got elected. His platform was very clear, and he's actually trying to stick to it. You guys don't even realize how arrogant you sound when you call all his supporters stupid/racist/etc. The left had demonized Trump so bad in November 2016 that people were actually scared to admit they were voting for him. That's not a good situation for our country. All you guys do is spew hatred, it's completely toxic.

Look, I don't agree with his policies, but I agree with what he represents -- populism and anti-establishment. The idea that the establishment doesn't control everything is very important. The idea that he won despite not being politically correct is very important. You guys want to go circle jerk about how smart you are, be my guest, but don't pretend that you have the best interests of the public in mind when you think half the public are stupid.

 

[metalhead]

You have to be a really small person to derive satisfaction from other people being upset at the results of an election.

The thing I don't understand is why so many people get in such a tizzy over what college kids say and do - and why for some reason that tizzy isn't focused on things like sexual assault or hazing deaths and is instead focused on a few isolated incidents of PC run amok. Where the hell are people's priorities these days? It doesn't seem like SJWs are the real problem here, at all.

 

[civver_764]

What? Pretty sure nobody supports sexual assault or hazing deaths.

 

[metalhead]

But you reserve your outrage for other, far more trivial things.

Also, the idea that Donald Trump is anti-establishment is absurd.

 

[civver_764]

But you reserve your outrage for other, far more trivial things.

You've got it backwards. The sexual assaults and hazing deaths are the isolated incidents, and there is virtually no debate on how bad they are. Nobody is supporting these things, so there's not really much discussion to be had.

SJWism is a pretty big phenomenon. It is supported by university professors and a large segment of the media. It has influenced the violent silencing of speech. The fact that many people think it's not a big deal is exactly why it needs to be called out and discussed.

Also, the idea that Donald Trump is anti-establishment is absurd.

The whole establishment hates him, so how is it absurd? He has gotten the most negative media coverage of any president.

 

[metalhead]

Sexual assault on college campuses is an isolated incident? Are you effing serious?

Meanwhile SJWism is an invention of the internet. It's not a real thing. The instant someone uses that term is the instant they lose all credibility because they don't have any clue about what is really going on on college campuses. You see a couple of media reports and then believe it's an epidemic, but you don't care to actually learn about the issues that U.S. colleges are trying to deal with.

The establishment hating him doesn't mean he's anti-establishment. His economic policy is run by Goldman Sachs. His foreign policy is run by generals and Exxon-Mobil. He couldn't be more establishment if he tried.

 

[civver_764]

Oh I see, you're one of those "rape culture" people.

You see a couple of media reports and then believe it's an epidemic

The amount of projection right here is intense.

The establishment hating him doesn't mean he's anti-establishment. His economic policy is run by Goldman Sachs. His foreign policy is run by generals and Exxon-Mobil. He couldn't be more establishment if he tried.

These are fair criticisms, but no different than any president before him. There is definitely a large amount of corruption in our government that is unfortunately unavoidable . However I think the establishment hating him does point to him being less controllable than his predecessors.

 

[Kyriakos]

It seems evident that Trump is crap, but it is also evident that he got elected due to the establishment also being crap. Imo it is a bad error to try to speak positively of the establishment just because Trump was (to whatever degree) not tied to it.
Also, people should remember that Trump is there because the dem party couldn't choose an actually decent candidate. Sometimes ludicrous nepotism back-fires; it is also why Bush the III wasn't the rep candidate. So regardless of Trump being a loon, it still is true that the Bush-Clintons were utter garbage choices.

 

[El_Machinae]

Only about 20% of people are on the odious end of SJWing. And easily half of those people are somewhat justified. To then hire someone who is a giant racist, promises to throw up trade barriers, to default on deficits, lies about faith, and who makes all allies wonder when he's going to screw them ... just doesn't seem logical.

We realize now that he spent more time choosing his hair plug technology than learning about how the economy even functions.

 

[Lexicus]

Only about 20% of people are on the odious end of SJWing.

I think you mean, like, 0.002% of people....maybe...

His victory was proof that the people actually have more power than the establishment.

The hilarious thing about this is that Trump won despite getting fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.

 

[civver_764]

The hilarious thing about this is that Trump won despite getting fewer votes than Hillary Clinton.

Look, he won according to the system that we have. I actually support doing away with the electoral college. In any case, the fact that he did so much better than projected is evidence enough of the people's will having traction.

 

[Kyriakos]

Look, he won according to the system that we have. I actually support doing away with the electoral college. In any case, the fact he did so much better than projected is evidence enough of the people's will having traction.

That is true. And i suppose that most of those who voted Trump (and didn't vote Romney) mostly wanted to say FU to the Bush-Clinton corp. Of course it resulted in Trump, yet - again - it doesn't mean they were wrong to despise the Bush-Clintons.

 

[Lexicus]

Look, he won according to the system that we have. I actually support doing away with the electoral college. In any case, the fact he did so much better than projected is evidence enough of this.

For you to portray his victory as a victory of the people against the establishment, when he won only due to a system designed to keep the establishment in charge, is ludicrous. All it is evidence of is that Trump managed to con people. I mean, once the discussion turns to his administration and what it's actually doing it's going to become obvious that what you're saying is complete nonsense, so by all means keep trying to portray his electoral college victory as 'the will of the people.'

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Look, he won according to the system that we have. I actually support doing away with the electoral college. In any case, the fact that he did so much better than projected is evidence enough of the people's will having traction.

It's evidence that enough people voted out of hatred. The middle of the country lagged behind in the recovery. Rather than examine themselves and do something about why that happened they opted for a guy who promised dragging back those that left them behind. Yes, those people's will had unexpected traction, but that isn't a good thing.

 

[Broken_Erika]

How many of his votes were people doing it just to stick it to the establishment? Had the democrats gone with bernie, or if election laws allowed schwarzenegger to run, we wouldn't have this problem.
Personally i think Foamy the Squirrel would be a good president.