Twitch is the future of humanity :)

[Kyriakos]

Damn it. I sort of like this age, I mean now a girl can make thousands of dollars out of some bizarre sense her viewers have that they... are closer to her by sending her money?

I like how she ends her austere request that all people watching her should at least donate $5. Seriously, that was funny

That said, I think she was unlucky cause in no way is she an exception or anywhere near the worst of Twitch e-girls. If she actually was making tons of money for Twitch, you can be sure they'd support her.

*Yes, some here may know this is old news - 3 months old is like the 1990s. But it wasn't easy finding a safe-to-post video

Topic generally is Twitch e-girls, and if you find this to be a cool phenomenon or not. Like I said, I personally am somewhat impressed... by the fact it is now possible to make money like this!
Maybe I should build a doll and animate it - or just wear a mask/bodysuit.

 

[GenMarshall]

Wait till you see our virutal e-girls that are gonna come out of the assembly line.

 

[Kyriakos]

Well, some people donate thousands of dollars in one go. I mean... WTH.
I like it, though. It is decadent and brutal. But... I still find it crazy than anyone would be so strange that they'd donate thousands of dollars to an e-girl.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Wait till you see our virutal e-girls that are gonna come out of the assembly line.

I had heard this was already happening to some extent? I admit ignorance, I stream more than I watch others stream, and I haven't streamed since last December or so I think.

 

[Commodore]

Well, some people donate thousands of dollars in one go. I mean... WTH.
I like it, though. It is decadent and brutal. But... I still find it crazy than anyone would be so strange that they'd donate thousands of dollars to an e-girl.

Yeah, that's kinda how I feel about the whole e-girl thing. I think the whole concept of it is pathetic and disgusting, but not because of the e-girls themselves. I applaud them for showing the entrepreneurial spirit to see an opportunity and exploit it. It's the guys that donate to them that I find pathetic and disgusting. There are guys that have literally ruined themselves financially donating to e-girls and they still give money to them in the hopes that it might earn them a scrap of their attention.

I mean, how much of a desperate loser does one have to be to make throwing thousands of dollars at an e-girl in the hopes that she might one day talk to you sound like a good idea?

 

[Kyriakos]

I had heard this was already happening to some extent? I admit ignorance, I stream more than I watch others stream, and I haven't streamed since last December or so I think.

:/

It makes sense, obviously. If you just stream, you don't even have to exist. I think that 20 years ago I'd have actually built a doll and present her as supposedly human, to live a comfortable life out of simp donations.

Yeah, that's kinda how I feel about the whole e-girl thing. I think the whole concept of it is pathetic and disgusting, but not because of the e-girls themselves. I applaud them for showing the entrepreneurial spirit to see an opportunity and exploit it. It's the guys that donate to them that I find pathetic and disgusting. There are guys that have literally ruined themselves financially donating to e-girls and they still give money to them in the hopes that it might earn them a scrap of their attention.

I mean, how much of a desperate loser does one have to be to make throwing thousands of dollars at an e-girl in the hopes that she might one day talk to you sound like a good idea?

Twitch e-girls are essentially just a more "respectable" variation of camgirls. And they certainly get paid hugely more than camgirls. And (afaik) stay anonymous.

If someone calls themselves "Delphine", only a pleb would think she will talk to them. Even the name itself signifies distance from the crowd, as if one is a priestess in Delphi.

 

[AdamCrock]

It is happening ! :O We are stopping to be actual humans and become virtual humans ! We do not see the difference between a bimbo like that between a real bimbo so why pay more ?

 

[H4run]

I had heard this was already happening to some extent? I admit ignorance, I stream more than I watch others stream, and I haven't streamed since last December or so I think.

You stream? Does it mean you sell your own bath water to your dear viewer for 20 pound also?

waow! I wanna be just like you!

 

[Kyriakos]

It is happening ! :O We are stopping to be actual humans and become virtual humans ! We do not see the difference between a bimbo like that between a real bimbo so why pay more ?

Simp rights allow fighting back, and getting one of their queens banned for a day. Then save money to send when she inevitably returns

 

[Senethro]

The whole thing seems a bit strange to me, but so does the whole conversation about how the women are womenning incorrectly and the men are unskilled men.

 

[trader/warrior]

Pff, yeah why pay to watch e-girls chat or game when you can just rent one to actually play games or chat directly with you. I highly recommend clicking on the sound clips of some of the ones with more kawaii uwu anime avatars, the voices are hilarious.

 

[warpus]

Good on her for figuring out how to make money without needing to work for a boss. And without having to show any genitals even, not bad.

Hopefully she's building up a set of skills outside of this though, because once she hits a certain age nobody will care to watch her channel anymore.

 

[Kyriakos]

Good on her for figuring out how to make money without needing to work for a boss. And without having to show any genitals even, not bad.

Hopefully she's building up a set of skills outside of this though, because once she hits a certain age nobody will care to watch her channel anymore.

If you mean Invadervie (the girl in the OP video), iirc she is over 30 already. Her career as e-girl isn't as strong as that of bathwater mermaid

 

[warpus]

If you mean Invadervie (the girl in the OP video), iirc she is over 30 already. Her career as e-girl isn't as strong as that of bathwater mermaid

Do we know how much money she's making? Maybe she's being smart about it and investing a lot of it so she can retire early, when she stops looking attractive?

It's a new world and new ways of making money, so all the power to her, really. I don't really know anything about her though, so for all I know her content is hateful. I'm not commenting on the content but rather the business model.

 

[Synobun]

Do we know how much money she's making? Maybe she's being smart about it and investing a lot of it so she can retire early, when she stops looking attractive?

It's a new world and new ways of making money, so all the power to her, really. I don't really know anything about her though, so for all I know her content is hateful. I'm not commenting on the content but rather the business model.

Her content is not hateful; at least, not anytime I've watched her in between streams from streamers I enjoy more. Her brand is having opinions, no different than a talk show host, really, except it's just her and then fielding questions from her audience. A lot of dating and life advice. AFAIK, she doesn't have any lewd content like most others do. (Lewd /=/ nudity here. Most of the Twitch girls do cosplay and lingerie. Few go full explicit.)

I expected much worse than outdated bootstrap theory in the OP's video. It's dumb, and privileged, but rather milquetoast. Openly admitting that she googles names of donors is saying the quiet part out loud; every content creator I've personally known has done the same, they just don't publicize it.

Money-wise, there are a few avenues for earning. Twitch has subscriber tiers now, and the streamer gets half the value of the sub. When subs were just $5, streamers would get $2.50 of that. Now, there are tiers that are like $20/mo. I'm not sure how much the streamer gets from those; maybe still 50%? These streamers also receive "bits" through chat, as well as actual outright donations. Of the few I watch (most are ASMRtists), they tend to get a couple dozen small donations (<$10) per stream. Bigger donations are rarer but still ordinary. One streamer I watch got a $2500 donation last month from a viewer. Many have weekly or daily sub goals, too, so that's one way to inefficiently ballpark income.

It's very good money if you can establish a returning audience.

 

[Farm Boy]

Belle Delphine with her not-quite-hardcore striptease and bathwater selling, frankly, was hilarious.The hatred in response that she didn't actually show the puss was also starkly revealing.

The business model is diptastic as the base, but celebrity magazines always were. It's not easy money. Just find a popular game and scroll down until you get the 1 viewers, then if you scroll for an age you'll get to the zeros. And they go and go.

Virtual community doesn't replace a real one. Not by a long shot.

 

[Kyriakos]

It is a nice scam, in my view. Rather clear that most of those who send money - or at least serious money, either in one go or in a period of time - do so out of some very unrealistic expectation they get closer to the e-girl.
That this is the intention is obvious also from some brief bans/scandals, like the one I posted in #9:
Neeko lost a lot of followers and got (very very briefly) banned, when she dared to say/show that she already has a boyfriend

Still, as I said in the OP, Invadervie is nowhere near the worst. At least she doesn't sell bathwater. Though I think she is very aware of taking advantage of people in very problematic mental states...

 

[Gori the Grey]

The "future of humanity" is "the world's oldest profession"?

Sounds about right.

 

[Farm Boy]

There's an argument to be had that the customers are getting screwed(ha!) by the change in transaction?

I mean, somebody tosses 5 bucks a week into the collection plate of a big streamer and then suspends their disbelief that this person gives a flying <whatever> about them. Somebody tosses 5 bucks a week into the collection plate of some church they suspend their disbelief about a doctrine they don't care deeply about, and I bet they get more potential social health out of the deal. Just maybe not quite immediately. Assuming they skip the big shiny capitalist-principled gospel of wealth megachurches. There are always parasites.

 

[warpus]

It is a nice scam, in my view. Rather clear that most of those who send money - or at least serious money, either in one go or in a period of time - do so out of some very unrealistic expectation they get closer to the e-girl.

It's not a scam because she's not making any claims about the money being used to get closer to her.. they're just donations, I believe that's advertised quite clearly (but I could be mistaken)

I don't understand the opposition to such creative ways to make a living. It's working for her, so who cares? She doesn't appear to be doing anything illegal or immoral.