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two weeks after, do you like the forum split?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by holy king, Apr 12, 2012.

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do you like the forum split?

  1. yes

    25.0%
  2. no

    58.7%
  3. dont care

    5.4%
  4. i barely see a difference between the two forums

    10.9%
  1. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    I will only report Tavern posts that clearly belong in the Chamber.
     
  2. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    up yours!
    :wavey:

    I do get your point about moderation in a quantitative aspect. But I still dislike the way the split was/is implemented and there's room for change.
     
  3. MjM

    MjM Deity

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    Still not too fond of it. Don't really see how it's improving things, and also fail to see uniquely different threads in each subforum.
     
  4. Mise

    Mise isle of lucy

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    I agree with JR.
     
  5. Dachs

    Dachs Hero of the Soviet Union

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    What an erudite and well-reasoned opinion.

    Not that my take on it has anything to do with the fact that it is also my opinion. :3
     
  6. Brighteye

    Brighteye intuitively Bayesian

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    Ever hear of the management jargon 'silos'?
    By which they mean a great variety of things, but all involve not communicating between different areas. Specialism is all well and good for efficiently dissecting a certain field. But to be honest, if I want to discuss something very specific, I can probably do it in real life better.
    OT was for finding novel and interesting ideas in all subjects, especially ones I don't know well. The more fora I have to scan, the less useful it becomes, because it's no longer OT, but instead the groupings by subject that I can get in real life. I don't want to go to an IT professional for computer advice on OT: I can do that amongst my friends. What was good was seeing the opinions of a diverse range of people on subjects I'd not normally consult them on.

    That is utterly impossible the more specialised we become in our discussion areas.
     
  7. Mise

    Mise isle of lucy

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    I don't think the intention is to split OT into specialist areas. In fact, the intent is the exact opposite: forums such as Arts & Entertainment and Science & Technology will be merged back into the OTs. The only difference between the two OT forums is moderation standards.
     
  8. _random_

    _random_ Jewel Runner

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    Mine as well. I'm not as averse to it as I once was, but I still don't approve.
     
  9. illram

    illram Deity

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    Pretty much what Mise said, although A&E and S&T merging is still up to the folks in those sub-forums for the most part. I have not been keeping track of those discussions.
     
  10. Tycho

    Tycho AFK Forum Warrior

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    Forum split is quite nice, even if I have to have more tabs open.
     
  11. Patroklos

    Patroklos Deity

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    I can definetly see a difference in posting style, though I am still wary of what a mod will consider unacceptable in the Tavern.

    Moderation has always been an arbitrary and uneven business here, that will only be worse in the Tavern unless a real hands off approach is adhered to.

    It can work though. Give it time.
     
  12. Oruc

    Oruc Reactionary

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    I am unsure of where the line is drawn in relation to infractions, I think I had it figured out in the pre-split off topic after having a few infractions, now not sure what type of posts I can make or if others are going over the line.
     
  13. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    up yours!
    Anything allowed in the old OT is still allowed in the Tavern. Hence, let's keep posting in the Tavern.
     
  14. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    One thing that I have seen that I hope is not a precedent is a Tavern thread being duplicated in the Chamber and then the Tavern thread being locked.
     
  15. Marla_Singer

    Marla_Singer United in diversity

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    So, if understand what everyone says, if I want to find back my good old CFC OT, I need to go to the tavern and ignore the chamber?

    And by the way, what are those names meaning in the first place? They aren't really intuitive to figure out. In its description, the tavern pretends to be about "serious business", and then it mentions it's not really designed for "serious debate". Maybe that's because I'm a silly foreigner, but it's rather confusing for my little head.
     
  16. Takhisis

    Takhisis Jinping, wer fragt uns?

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    Because 'SRS BSNS' is an Internet meme. It's intended to mean the opposite of what it's face value is. :crazyeye:
     
  17. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    Well it is an attempt, but the old OT is dead a buried. It died under a form of over moderation and now we are left with two decaying carcasses. A few years ago posting in OT was fun, but even before the split things were going downhill and it wont change even if we split it up. The character of OT has lost its charm of years ago, which is why it is not that important as it once was.
     
  18. shadowplay

    shadowplay (boss music)

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    I noticed that too. Might want to drop that "serious business" part from the description below "The Tavern", it's potentially confusing and not everyone is familiar with the meme.
     
  19. Silurian

    Silurian Deity

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    Well I have never come across "serious business" to mean non serious before.
    (until a few posts above)
    It is confusing:confused::confused::confused:
     
  20. The_J

    The_J Say No 2 Net Validations Retired Moderator Supporter

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    From an meme site:

     

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