Lexicus
Deity
If white British people were actually having enough babies to grow the population, would you or anyone else be blaming parents for the high cost of housing?
UK Politics VI - Will Britain Steir to Karmer Waters?
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If white British people were actually having enough babies to grow the population, would you or anyone else be blaming parents for the high cost of housing?
Er…sort of. I would say you would blame population growth, rather than parents. No one’s talking about implementing a one child policy in the UK, but stricter border controls are on the table. So yes, there is a difference.
As an aside, I think you misunderstand where this complaint comes from. Most of the well off in Britain are delighted by rising house prices…so if they had a complaint about immigrants, this wouldn’t be it.
Actually, if anything, having someone to blame would be a further delight. The fact that prices began to rise when buy-to-let was implemented forty years ago should help, shouldn't it? Gentrification and rising prices doesn't arise from having poor people.
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Akka
Moody old mage.
Or maybe that's because up to now, few people required an actual study to prove that "more new people than new houses" would cause a rise in housing price.
The point is that if the immigrants have house building skills lacking in the native workforce then it can be the solution the the housing crisis. It seems to me that the UK is in that situation.
Senethro
Overlord
Supply and demand type solutions also assumes residential purchasers and landlords have comparable purchasing power and can compete.
Zardnaar
Deity
People with critical skills should be speedrun through the visa process imho.
Akka
Moody old mage.
But is there any study proving that building new houses would increase the number of houses, or are you just acting in bad faith to support your claim ?
Zardnaar
Deity
But is there any study proving that building new houses would increase the number of houses, or are you just acting in bad faith to support your claim ?
This good enough?
Do Houses Really Double in Value Every Decade in NZ?
Investing in property can be a high risk, high reward opportunity. Can property value really double every decade in New Zealand?
Reserve bank of NZ. Not the only factor true.
Moderator Action: This thread is not about NZ. Birdjaguar
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There is a very serious question about how the house building industry structures itself to ensure that it has as little effect on the house price as possible, to maximise profits. I think the state should be doing the house building.But is there any study proving that building new houses would increase the number of houses, or are you just acting in bad faith to support your claim ?
Akka
Moody old mage.
You should pay more attention to the details of what is written and your sarcasm detector, Zard 
Zardnaar
Deity
Clarification? Here building codes have basically made cheap housing illegal to build.
There's no money in snall theoretical cheaper houses. By that the building material cost difference isn't that big between the two.
The fixed costs eg connecting power, water, resource consents make up most of the cost.
Plus side you don't have slums.
From the FT:
The Labour government’s pledge to build 1.5mn homes in England over the next five years risks being stymied by a shortfall of more than 150,000 skilled construction workers, the building industry’s training body has warned.
Tim Balcon, chief executive of the Construction Industry Training Board, said new planning laws, set out in the King’s Speech, that aim to increase the number of new homes would fail without a step-change in skills training.
Also:
Construction Products Association director Noble Francis warns “there just won’t be the people” to meet key manifesto pledge
A lack of skilled construction labour and product manufacturing capacity may hold back Keir Starmer’s plan to build 1.5 million homes over the next five years, a respected economist has warned.
Francis, writing on Linked In, said: “There are also key constraints on the availability of skilled construction labour and construction product manufacturing.
Zardnaar
Deity
Same thing here with our labour. They priced the policy out and it was affordable.
Being technocrat politicians they didn't look a the industry capacity.
This was 2017 election promise. Next 4 years prices exploded more and policy failure/disillusioned.
UKs where we were at 2017 similar to USA.
Canada and Australia are ahead as well. Expect it to get worse.
They ended up overpaying to make the numbers look good but added to demand and outbidding home buyers. That was Jacinda age was popular internationally (I voted for her didn't expect her to fix it).
Moderator Action: As I already said, we don't need to spend whole pages arguing about topics that are supposedly 'transparent' and nor do we need to constantly bring up other countries in the UK thread. Change the topic, please.
EnglishEdward
Deity
This is a hilarious question !
EnglishEdward
Deity
but back to the UK:
and despite the early release schemes.
Perhaps it is time to set up a penal colony on South Georgia or whatever.
Shabana Mahmood: Prison space may run out despite plans to expand
Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood says "building alone is not enough" to deal with the overcrowding crisis.
www.bbc.co.uk
and despite the early release schemes.
Perhaps it is time to set up a penal colony on South Georgia or whatever.
Coincidentally on the same day:but back to the UK:
Shabana Mahmood: Prison space may run out despite plans to expand
Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood says "building alone is not enough" to deal with the overcrowding crisis.www.bbc.co.uk
and despite the early release schemes.
Perhaps it is time to set up a penal colony on South Georgia or whatever.
Britain leads the world in cracking down on climate activism, study finds
British police arrest environmental protesters at nearly three times the global average rate, research has found, revealing the country as a world leader in the legal crackdown on climate activism.
Only Australia arrested climate and environmental protesters at a higher rate than UK police. One in five Australian eco-protests led to arrests, compared with about 17% in the UK. The global average rate is 6.7%.
It found an increase in the number and proportion of protests linked to climate and environmental destruction over the past decade, but argued that rather than tackling the issues provoking them, states are focusing on punishing dissent.
“There is an increasing criminalisation and repression of climate and environmental protest,” said Oscar Berglund, a political economist at the University of Bristol who led the study. “These kinds of protests have increased, climate protests quite sharply, and the response to this has been a crackdown that has to be seen in the wider political sense of a breakdown in climate action.”
Berglund and his colleagues looked at data collected by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data database between 2012 and 2023, focusing specifically on the countries that had more than 1,000 protest events registered for that period. They then narrowed down their focus to 14 countries representing all six populated continents for a qualitative analysis.
Following academic convention, they drew a terminological distinction between environmental protest and climate protest. Environmental protests were defined as those that target destructive projects such as mining, dams or large scale construction, while climate protests are a generally newer phenomenon, mainly concentrated in the global north. They are geographically separate from the projects they oppose and have broader political demands.
The researchers found that both kinds of protest had increased, but the data showed a particularly sharp rise in the number of climate protests towards the end of the 2010s, coinciding with the growth of the youth-led Fridays for Future movement and groups such as Extinction Rebellion in the UK and the Sunrise Movement in the US.
Across the countries studied, an average of 6.7% of climate and environmental protests led to arrests, but the figure varied widely with the highest rates in the global north, not just in Australia and the UK, but also Norway, which had a rate of 15.1%.
The countries with the lowest arrest rates were Brazil at 0.6%, Peru at 2% and Uganda at 2.2%, but these were also the countries with the highest levels of police violence.
The researchers also found that new laws in the UK, the US, Australia and elsewhere had created new offences, increased sentence lengths for non-violent protest and minor acts of sabotage, and given police new powers to stop protests during them and before they take place.
The UK’s Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act 2021 and the Public Order Act 2022 transformed the relationship between protesters and the state, handing police extensive new powers to curtail protests and criminalising a range of protest activities. Berglund said his team’s research had found that these moves had been followed by many other countries.
Senethro
Overlord
Kind of a logical progression from the previous environmental/animal rights infiltration/monitoring of the 80s/90s.
They're very scared of business hostile ideology/activism.
They're very scared of business hostile ideology/activism.
