Weed?

Should weed be legal?


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thats interesting, I've heard smoking stimulates the brain's ability to focus

when I was a youngster I heard the term scatterbrained to describe people with focusing problems

is there any evidence for people with ADD symptoms using tobacco to self medicate?
 
I don’t smoke weed but if I did I would be willing to pay more for the legal kind. Illegal drug deals can easily result in someone getting killed if things don’t go as planned.

Edit: I have schizophrenia but there’s no way I’d smoke even if it helps me focus more. Smoking is terrible for your health.
 
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I do not see a good reason to imprison people and destroy their ability to thrive because they chose to consume something, harmful or not.
I'm somewhat against legalizing it but I completely agree that it should not be a jail-able offense and should result in only a fine. It should never destroy someones life.
 
NM approves public financing for cannabis businesses

Average loan is expected to be about $100,000; process to start February

BY MORGAN LEE
ASSOCIATED PRESS

SANTA FE — New Mexico will provide business loans of up to $250,000 to small-scale cannabis businesses in an effort to provide economic opportunity to communities that were hit hard by past criminal enforcement of marijuana laws. The Regulation and Licensing Department on Thursday announced that the loan program is moving forward after a legislative panel provided approval this week. The New Mexico Finance Authority is planning for a $5 million line of credit for cannabis entrepreneurs, with an average loan size of about $100,000. The application process is expected to open in February.

Loans would be available to qualified cannabis “microbusinesses” that are licensed to cultivate and sell marijuana from up to 200 plants at a single location, operating much like a craft winery or brewery. That business niche was authorized in sweeping legislation to regulate and tax recreational marijuana sales, signed by Democratic Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham earlier this year. Recreational cannabis sales commence by April 1, 2022. Terms of the small business loans will extend for up to five years, with interest rates from 2% to 3%. New Mexico Finance Authority CEO Marquita Russel has noted that traditional business loans are still scarce for small-scale cannabis entrepreneurs.

New Mexico has emphasized social and economic fairness as it prepares to legalize and tax sales of recreational cannabis. Marijuana possession and growing remains a federal crime, despite changes in state and tribal law. And a recent federal raid on a household marijuana garden on tribal land in northern New Mexico has renewed worries about U.S. drug enforcement priorities.
 
I'm somewhat against legalizing it but I completely agree that it should not be a jail-able offense and should result in only a fine. It should never destroy someones life.
Fines are well established as simply being a means of increasing poverty, so I'm not entirely sure what fining consumption would do. Surely legal taxation would achieve the same aims?
 
Maybe he could suggest hours of community service as an option instead of a fine.
 
Yep it's got some pain relief properties anything else is usually overblown.

This is just so dismissive. Haven't you ever wondered if you see colour the same way other people do -- if your red and my red could be different? I've noticed a common refrain from people who don't regularly use cannabis: they've tried it and it wasn't for them. Why is it inconceivable that others might have a different experience?

Problem is if they decriminalize weed the gangs will just push something else. That being meth here.

Well they'll push it harder.

So it doesn't really fix anything just gives the stoners what they want.

That's not a problem of cannabis, that's a problem with meth. Drugs are easily available, if you want them you can go get them. Hell, you can make meth easily enough in your living room if you really want to. Most people don't, for a good reason: they've seen the result in others.
 
A lot of the "stoners" who turned to harder drugs did so because their dealers would often sell multiple types of drugs. To buy weed you had to mingle with sketchy crowds and that was a big part of the problem.

How many people who buy alcohol in the grocery store end up stopping in a back alley afterwards to buy some meth? I'm sure they exist, but it's probably not a "gateway" worth talking about. Those who buy weed legally are also equally unlikely to buy meth after they step out of Kroger with a pouch of marijuana, or wherever it is that you Americans buy weed these days. But if you have to meet up with Greg the sketchy 25 year old who still hangs out with high school kids and lives in a rundown apartment in the industrial part of town.. who knows.
 
This is just so dismissive. Haven't you ever wondered if you see colour the same way other people do -- if your red and my red could be different? I've noticed a common refrain from people who don't regularly use cannabis: they've tried it and it wasn't for them. Why is it inconceivable that others might have a different experience?



That's not a problem of cannabis, that's a problem with meth. Drugs are easily available, if you want them you can go get them. Hell, you can make meth easily enough in your living room if you really want to. Most people don't, for a good reason: they've seen the result in others.

I understand if you like it, I'm just saying from personal experience claiming it's healthy is BS.

Even if it's legal. It's basically a gateway drug every junkie I've met or meth head used pot first.
I've worked with h people "drug f'bomb" from pot use. Completely incapable of functioning in a work environment. Dangerous to themselves and others.

It's also bad for Maori culture here. This isn't even counting the fact it's illegal.

As I said I support decriminalized or legal pot for a variety of reasons.

Growing up it was all around me. Role models in life "don't be that guy".

For middle class hipsters who like the occasional puff sure why not. I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak surrounded by pot abusers.

Done guys I know started using at high school. Still are. They're basically no hopers lifetime on benefits, wrecked health going no where no motivation and down the anti vaxxer conspiracy hole.
 
I understand if you like it, I'm just saying from personal experience claiming it's healthy is BS.

Even if it's legal. It's basically a gateway drug every junkie I've met or meth head used pot first.
I've worked with h people "drug f'bomb" from pot use. Completely incapable of functioning in a work environment. Dangerous to themselves and others.

It's also bad for Maori culture here. This isn't even counting the fact it's illegal.

As I said I support decriminalized or legal pot for a variety of reasons.

Growing up it was all around me. Role models in life "don't be that guy".

For middle class hipsters who like the occasional puff sure why not. I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak surrounded by pot abusers.

Done guys I know started using at high school. Still are. They're basically no hopers lifetime on benefits, wrecked health going no where no motivation and down the anti vaxxer conspiracy hole.
Ever thought maybe people use drugs to cope w trauma and that pot isn't @ cause for their lives to be s*** (in your estimation)?

In a different context things might be different. For example Joe Rogan has the biggest podcast in the world and pot hasn't exactly made him into a do-nothing loser.

He even had the richest guy in the world take some puffs on his show (and AFAIK Mr Musk isn't off shooting heroin in an alley somewhere).
 
South Africa's 'King Khoisan' arrested over cannabis plants at president's office

South African police have uprooted several cannabis plants growing near President Cyril Ramaphosa's office in Pretoria.
They belonged to activists from the indigenous Khoisan community, some of whom have camped in the area for three years.
Their leader, who calls himself King Khoisan, clung on to a large cannabis plant as police dragged him away.
"Police... you have declared war," the AFP news agency quotes him as shouting.
"We have been here peacefully. We are coming for you," he continued.
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A lot of the "stoners" who turned to harder drugs did so because their dealers would often sell multiple types of drugs. To buy weed you had to mingle with sketchy crowds and that was a big part of the problem.

How many people who buy alcohol in the grocery store end up stopping in a back alley afterwards to buy some meth? I'm sure they exist, but it's probably not a "gateway" worth talking about. Those who buy weed legally are also equally unlikely to buy meth after they step out of Kroger with a pouch of marijuana, or wherever it is that you Americans buy weed these days. But if you have to meet up with Greg the sketchy 25 year old who still hangs out with high school kids and lives in a rundown apartment in the industrial part of town.. who knows.

That is very strange - even if it is illegal you can still keep a few plants in some out of sight place, it is called weed for a reason it grows anywhere, even indoors.

You really do not need Greg there to buy it, the nearest farmer will do, or anyone with a sunny spare room.
 
That is very strange - even if it is illegal you can still keep a few plants in some out of sight place, it is called weed for a reason it grows anywhere, even indoors.

You really do not need Greg there to buy it, the nearest farmer will do, or anyone with a sunny spare room.
It is not that easy to get it to bud. At these latitudes you will not manage in a sunny spare room.
 
I generally lean towards legalization. A lot of people do it anyway, it's tax revenue for the state, and all but one of the people I know who consume weed do it in moderation. Although that one who didn't made sure to tell people, don't let anyone tell you weed isn't addictive, it is. Whether he meant chemically or psychologically, I'm not sure, but he was a science major, and a good academic in general. So I keep that in mind as a cautious tale... at the same time he prioritized breaking his alcohol habit first as that was the more harmful one.

Still, on the balance, legalization seems like the right choice. The negative effects are moderate, probably less than alcohol, and legalization removes an important revenue stream for illegal activity.

That said, I don't inhale myself (or even partake in consumables), and voted against legalization when it was last on the ballot. Though in that case it was because the legalization proposal also included giving a monopoly to a small number of companies. I'm actually somewhat surprised there hasn't been another legalization ballot measure in the past five years, but my principles remain the same - if it's another monopoly/oligopoly measure, I'll vote no; if it's a more open market one, I'll probably vote yes (unless something else in it is suspicious).
 
Somewhat surprised by the vote there...

You all think it should be legal apparently ? Why don't you legalize it then ?

Edit, voted no myself, because our policy works well, illegal - but lowest priority, occasional users can be left alone while you can still use it as leverage or aggravating circumstance when combined with driving or other criminal activities.

Option 2 is strange too - restricting it to medical use only would likely cause a lot of recreational users into to the heavily commercialized medicinal sector, that can cause all sorts of problems, just look what happened with fentanyl for example..
 
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