What is a Nazi?

[Angst]

Are you saying we shouldn't regard the Corsican Anti-Christ butchering his way across Europe to sate his desire to glory with horror and revulsion?

IMO we should, I've not understood the celebration of that man since like high school, but I think Naskra's point is more, correctly, that whether fair or not, Napoleon's crimes have increasingly disappeared from the public conscious since his heyday.

 

[Ajidica]

IMO we should, I've not understood the celebration of that man since like high school, but I think Naskra's point is more, correctly, that whether fair or not, Napoleon's crimes have increasingly disappeared from the public conscious since his heyday.

Butchery for liberte, egalite, fraternite is a lot more palatable than butchery of sub-humans and create a slave race.

 

[Samson]

IMO we should, I've not understood the celebration of that man since like high school, but I think Naskra's point is more, correctly, that whether fair or not, Napoleon's crimes have increasingly disappeared from the public conscious since his heyday.

To get the epithet "The Great", or really to remembered at all for more than a few years you kind of need to do quite a lot of butchery.

 

[Angst]

Butchery for liberte, egalite, fraternite is a lot more palatable than butchery of sub-humans and create a slave race.

Oh don't get me wrong, Hitler's far, far, FAR worse, it's not even in the same discussion. I'm not sure whether the assertion that Hitler will only be treated better, or will be treated as well as Napoleon, is that correct. It's a possibility. So in that part I'm not sure Naskra is right at all. But it is true that Napoleon has been largely whitewased by the public conscious.

 

[Angst]

To get the epithet "The Great", or really to remembered at all for more than a few years you kind of need to do quite a lot of butchery.

Oof. Yes. This is enough reality for me for today. Ironically, I'm going to relax with some Age of Empires 2.

 

[Hygro]

@bernie14 i have been thinking about your original response to the thread about “lacking compassion”. I do agree and I keep coming back to it these past weeks.

But I am very unsatisfied with leaving it there.

A delight in cruelty, for example, is certainly its own branch.

 

[Kyriakos]

To get the epithet "The Great", or really to remembered at all for more than a few years you kind of need to do quite a lot of butchery.

"If a man has harmed the world more than the world harmed him, they call him a great man" F. Kafka

 

[bernie14]

Maybe you should just learn what conflict theory is before talking about it.

EDIT: Just saw your edit about mild dyslexia - it actually explains your misreading a lot, but I'm sorry to have piled up on that. It's not easy to work with when you have it.

Well then, if you want to double down, then i will tell you that you are completely wrong and displaying fairly significant cognitive dissonance. Conflict theory is a prerequisite of the marxist material dialectic. You just can't grasp that concept, that's all

 

[Kyriakos]

I wonder why Marx just had to use the term "dialectic", when materialism is itself anti-philosophical.

Wait, wiki gives an answer. And tbh I could have imagined myself that he'd be influenced by the non-dialectic of Hegel.

 

[Angst]

Well then, if you want to double down, then i will tell you that you are completely wrong and displaying fairly significant cognitive dissonance. Conflict theory is a prerequisite of the marxist material dialectic. You just can't grasp that concept, that's all

... I never said it wasn't? I'm well aware of this, you know? I literally just said that in the post you were quoting before the one you were quoting here. I said it in the post (where I had to google it) that the material I'm used to calls it something else, not that it IS something else. Read what I'm saying before doing a stupid gotcha. But you started ranting about this point. I answered what I did right now, you rant again. Again, what the hell are you talking about? Who are you talking to? Is this a weird form of sealioning?

 

[Angst]

I wonder why Marx just had to use the term "dialectic", when materialism is itself anti-philosophical.

Spoken like a true Greek But yea - no.

 

[Birdjaguar]

Words like grammar Nazi have entered the language and turned what was a German nightmare into Kleenx, Xerox, Trampoline, Heroin, and Aspirin. What once was special and unique is now generic.

 

[Gori the Grey]

To get the epithet "The Great", or really to remembered at all for more than a few years you kind of need to do quite a lot of butchery.

Gregory?

 

[Birdjaguar]

Peck! What do I win?

 

[bernie14]

@bernie14 i have been thinking about your original response to the thread about “lacking compassion”. I do agree and I keep coming back to it these past weeks.

But I am very unsatisfied with leaving it there.

A delight in cruelty, for example, is certainly its own branch.

Not sure i would say a delight in cruelty. Utter lack of compassion is by definition cruel but i don't necessarily think there has to be delight in it. It's worse. There doesn't have to be any emotion tied to it at all, just ideology and mathematics. The rest is convincing the useful idiots that your intolerant ideology is "for the greater good".