What is going on in the UK?

[Samson]

That's ridiculous and self-contradicting.
"we don't get to choose how reckless people act, so we are responsible if they act reckless"
Wut, again.

I mean, I understand what you say. But that's just the exact same reasoning as blaming the victim.

We get to choose between two worlds, one in which kids on ebikes are chased by police in motor vehicles and one in which they do not. In one world fewer kids die in police chases and there are more kids riding ebikes, and the other is the opposite. Weighing up these costs and benefits is what politics is all about.

You can call it blame, you can call it responsibility, but that is just semantics. Decisions have consequences, and analysing these consequences and choosing the ones we want is the exercise of power.

 

[EnglishEdward]

It has not been established that the police were chasing that kid in Ely.

Following is not the same as chasing.

And it is not usually possible to rapidly distinguish between a large child and a small adult from behind.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

It has not been established that the police were chasing that kid in Ely.

Following is not the same as chasing.

And it is not usually possible to rapidly distinguish between a large child and a small adult from behind.

The kids were fleeing the cops because they were afraid of the cops, and that's a bad thing and thus the cops' fault, and they should hand out ice cream instead of being scary. I guess.

 

[EnglishEdward]

Is the Corbyn party gaining any ground, or is it dead in the water?

It gets worse.

They have set up a limited company to receive membership subscriptions, and are now in dispute about them.

Stand-off over £800,000 Your Party membership fees

Your Party officials accuse Zarah Sultana of withholding funds despite publicly agreeing to transfer the money.

www.bbc.co.uk

I know not whether this is because some thought to control the party by controlling the company with the money,
or whether the banks were unwilling to transfer the money without there being a company to receive it.

 

[Kyriakos]

He is sadly too old by now anyway. Too bad they robbed him of his chance with the vile lies about antisemitism.

 

[danjuno]

The kids were fleeing the cops because they were afraid of the cops, and that's a bad thing and thus the cops' fault, and they should hand out ice cream instead of being scary. I guess.

Instead of mocking the death of kids, maybe actually look up how this works. Even here in the US, its not unheard of for police to back off (if not entirely, then at least hang back with sirens and lights off) if there's a noticable risk they'll wreck out and kill themselves or others. You literally see this on TV all the time. And don't tell me the UK doesn't have lighter units capable of a more appropriate response.

 

[Akka]

We get to choose between two worlds, one in which kids on ebikes are chased by police in motor vehicles and one in which they do not. In one world fewer kids die in police chases and there are more kids riding ebikes, and the other is the opposite. Weighing up these costs and benefits is what politics is all about.

I'll get the world where we don't blame the homeowner because the robber jumped down a cliff because he ran away after getting confronted.

 

[Senethro]

Police are public servants and public servants should be able to interact with the public without making them corpses. That is skillfully and without unnecessary intimidation that makes for unpredictable results.