Why I think ABORTION is o.k.

If anyone wants my personal view, I don't have much of one, due to what BasketCase said.

@A Cubed (;)) and Cheetah:

How is human life beginning at sentience any less arbitrary? If you think killing a, say, one-month-old fetus is wrong because it's "sentient," then you must think killing a deer is wrong because it's even more sentient than the fetus. And if you're looking for the start of a "human" level of sentience (i.e. my level of sentience or so) to avoid the deer problem, then infanticide must be okay.

@Perfection:

Why is a human neural structure significant? What if the person hasn't thought much of anything yet? You might say, "Well, he eventually will," but the same applies to before he had a human neural structure.
tossi said:
Tt is be better to be aborted, then to be an unwanted child.
What in the world? Like JohnHSOG said, ask a typical unwanted child and see if they plan on killing themselves because they'd rather be dead.
tossi said:
No, I would run away.
That's the point. If you wouldn't kill yourself, then being unwanted and living must be better than being dead (aborted).
 
I think early abortion is OK, but I wouldn't really know where to draw the line...

:confused:.
 
Those who disagree with a woman's right to abortion might have a thought for what it might be like to be raped and forced to bear the child of a criminal.
 
Own said:
The average male produces something like 3000 sperm per day, which technically could become humans somehow, and nobody's sad about that.
A fetus is much closer to being a human than a human? Wanna know why? It's actually genetically human.
 
Drool4Res-pect said:
They say that abortion is murder. But they also say they have an abortion before the fetus turns into a human and before it has feelings. Therefore the abortion is not murder for what the fetus is but for what it could become. A human could be created and people say it's immoral to stop it.
All through out history murders has been justified by seeing someone less or not human. Murder is the action of the human heart so it makes no difference when a woman has an abortion, an life has ended. One way to justify an action is to change words ; killing a fetus doesn't sound as bad as killing a baby or taking a life.
Also as a bonus in many countrys the crime rate dropped 20 years after abortion was legalized. Why?
If you legalized everything you wouldn't have a crime rate since everything would be legal.
Abortion means there are fewer unwanted babys that grow into criminals.
When woman loses their compassion and love for their children in their womb it a sure sign the nation is heading down hill. The love of many will wax cold. Again This does point out the heart of the matter ; the human heart.

Abortion also has bad side affects. One example; While Americans are killing their own offspring Mexicans are poping out babies left and right. Slowly Mexicans are out numbering Americans will eventually conquers us without firing a shot.
 
tossi said:
No, I would run away. If i was treated like **** for my entire life by my parents, I would most likely not be a stable human that I am today.

Then you would be a weak person. I have faith that most people would be able to make a life for themselves.
 
Perfection said:
What makes an embryo a human?

The fact that it has (almost) identical DNA codes as you and me. Just because it's not developed doesn't make it not a human.

Just about the only case in which Abortion should be approved is in a rape case. And even then it's questionable. The Pro-Choice people really bother me when they say a Woman should have the right to choose what happens to her body. And she does, it's called abstinance. End of story.
 
Smidlee said:
Abortion also has bad side affects. One example; While Americans are killing their own offspring Mexicans are poping out babies left and right. Slowly Mexicans are out numbering Americans will eventually conquers us without firing a shot.

You need to check your paranoia and blatant racism.
 
blackheart said:
You need to check your paranoia and blatant racism.
I've notice you didn't asked me to check my math.
 
Smidlee said:
I've notice you didn't asked me to check my math.

What's your point? White people are going to lose dominance? Mexicans having more children on average is a fact? Immigrants tend to outnumber the existing people?
 
tossi said:
Tt is be better to be aborted, then to be an unwanted child.

Keep your death opinions to yourself; I'd rather grow up a screwed up criminal than not grow up at all.

Nope, it's because they legalized abortion in the 70s so don't just think about human feelings.

Yeah, and you know what? Nuking the entire world and killing every human being on the planet would drop the crime rate to 0%! Let's do that!

The idea that abortion could lower crime rates in the future and is therefore good is stupid. Do you commit 30 million murders to stop 1,000 30 years from now? No, that is utterly ********. even if you look at it merely as a matter of numbers it's idiotic.
 
As long as the umbilical cord that attaches mother to fetus is still attached, the option should be available. If you have a problem with the morality of abortions, I have a fantastic idea: Don't have one. I'm also sure your church/mosque/whatever would be more than happy to help share the burden of all the unwanted babies sitting in orphanages without parents to care for them.

Edit: On second thought that might not be the best of ideas either. The world needs less fundamentalists.
 
John HSOG said:
If a woman chooses to have an abortion, she should be aborted, too.

That statement sums up why your religious view is appallingly out iof touch with reality.

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PriestOfDiscord said:
As long as the umbilical cord that attaches mother to fetus is still attached, the option should be available.

A baby already external to the mother, but with the umbilical cord still attached is certainly a human life. To kill it would be murder and should be treated the same way. In fact, that type of murder has occured before and been prosecuted as such. To kill any sentient human being is murder, be it at the beginning or near the end of life.
 
PriestOfDiscord said:
As long as the umbilical cord that attaches mother to fetus is still attached, the option should be available. If you have a problem with the morality of abortions, I have a fantastic idea: Don't have one. I'm also sure your church/mosque/whatever would be more than happy to help share the burden of all the unwanted babies sitting in orphanages without parents to care for them.

Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? While the umbilical cord is attached, the mother can kill it, but five seconds later when it's cut killing the baby is murder? Why not just say it's not human until you take it home? (Someone actually proposed that awhile ago) Or perhaps when it developes language skills and can say "Please don't kill me". Or maybe when it's an adult; before that it's dependant on the parents anyway. :rolleyes: Your position is sickening and insane.

Edit: On second thought that might not be the best of ideas either. The world needs less fundamentalists.

Well guess what: Because "fundamentalists" don't abort their babies we have more of them: So it's just a matter of numbers; we'll win eventually.
 
Own said:
The average male produces something like 3000 sperm per day, which technically could become humans somehow, and nobody's sad about that.

Yeah, that is really the same thing.
 
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