Why we hate Hillary

[carmen510]

She goes by public opinion. Hell, if suddenly Republicans rigged major media publications to show people suddenly love the Iraq War, she'd go with it. That explains why she hates video games, she wants to go with the crowd, saying, blame video games, its not our fault that we drink, smoke, use vulgar language, get violent sometimes, etc.

Healthcare plan is plain and simple, the worst plan that will ever be created, ever... I mean, intentions are great, but let's save that for when we have the national debt cleared up, and don't owe more debt interest to other nations.

Hillary will win, because she goes with public opinion, but her support will eventually weaken, if people notice what's going on.

I don't really like any candidates, we should have a 'None of the Above' selection box for elections, just to spite politicians, because they find out that people don't really support them, they only vote for them to avoid another person getting into office.

Okay, I was joking about the last paragraph.

 

[Adamb0mb]

She just withdrew that $5,000 per child bond that she proposed not that long ago. Though, I think that was more of a trial balloon for votes that got promptly shot down, I could see how someone could construe it to mean that she changes her positions on a dime.

Sounds like she had an idea for policy, put it out for debate, and withdrew the idea when she saw it wasn't getting any support.

Unless I'm wrong and she initially supported the idea and now opposes it.

Otherwise it seems that this would be a typical occurence in the legislature.

 

[Bast]

That could be her campaign slogan! "Hillary Clinton: Just what America needs after a long day at the office - the touch of a woman"!

Eew. I think I need to wash. But why should America endure her touch if even Bill won't? But seriously - a woman's touch? What, so we can fight a more sensitive and caring war on terror? Face down Ahmadinejad with cookies and milk? I don't have a problem with a woman being President, but she'd have to be tough as many man, and I don't think you're talking about that.

"A woman's touch and a woman's perspective on running things...." Simply classic.

Well this was never about me because I clearly said that that's what was being said on other boards. I didn't say it, others did.

I think you're missing the point here: that statement is meant to symbolize change. And you mentioned Iraq and Ahmad and I said that that statement was in particular reference to domestic issues like healthcare.

Does America need a change in direction with regard to health and education? Hell, YES! And is it a symbolic statement to say that a mother's (woman's) touch could come useful and couldn't come at a better time? YES!

That's the point, NOT that she'd make a better president because she's a woman. It's all about symbolism and change and taking the country in a new direction through leadership that deviates from the norm.

 

[Bast]

But, of course, I'm the "sexist pig."

So where are these statistics you keep talking about?

And you've been rebuked by many in this thread and I by none. I wouldn't even be showing my face around here if I were you.

 

[Japanrocks12]

Any female that hates video games is unfit for the presidency IMO. If you can't look beyond senseless(and often senseful) fun to the real issues affecting our country, then you are unfit for the presidency.

and besides, everyone knows gamer girls are hot.

 

[Elrohir]

Well this was never about me because I clearly said that that's what was being said on other boards. I didn't say it, others did.

I think you're missing the point here: that statement is meant to symbolize change. And you mentioned Iraq and Ahmad and I said that that statement was in particular reference to domestic issues like healthcare.

Does America need a change in direction with regard to health and education? Hell, YES! And is it a symbolic statement to say that a mother's (woman's) touch could come useful and couldn't come at a better time? YES!

That's the point, NOT that she'd make a better president because she's a woman. It's all about symbolism and change and taking the country in a new direction through leadership that deviates from the norm.

It would also show change if we elected a crack addicted hooker from New York President, too - but not necessarily a good change. Change isn't inherently good or bad, it depends wholly upon what is changing, and what it is being changed into. And forgive me if I don't think Hillary would change the right things in the right ways.

 

[Bast]

It would also show change if we elected a crack addicted hooker from New York President, too - but not necessarily a good change. Change isn't inherently good or bad, it depends wholly upon what is changing, and what it is being changed into. And forgive me if I don't think Hillary would change the right things in the right ways.

That's fine, I'm not attacking every person that thinks Hillary won't be good for America. No one's perfect and Hillary is no exception.

I just thought I'd clarify my position on change and show that that statement wasn't just about a woman versus a man.

 

[Adamb0mb]

Any female that hates video games is unfit for the presidency IMO.

As opposed to a male who hates video games?

 

[The Yankee]

It would also show change if we elected a crack addicted hooker from New York President

Somebody call my name?

But with all the candidates talking "change," they'd actually have to show it'd be a good change. Change for change's sake may not be the best answer.

 

[Stewbert 08]

Good lord, so we have Hillary hate and "OMG SHE HAS A VAGINA" hate bigotry running rampant here.

Wow.

Very surprising... given that misogyny is a lot easier to hide in societally excusable ways than racism...

The people who have decided they won't vote for Obama because he's black have already found far less "WTH " excuses. Like "his campaign is all about his race." I mean, people see through that but at least it isn't blatantly out-there-in-your-face right? It's polite racism.

But the people who have decided they won't vote for Hillary because she's a woman.... why can't they just say something similar? We'll still know yall're sexist. Just don't shove it in our faces plz!

She just withdrew that $5,000 per child bond that she proposed not that long ago. Though, I think that was more of a trial balloon for votes that got promptly shot down, I could see how someone could construe it to mean that she changes her positions on a dime.

By that standard Bush has flipflopped on Social Security "Reform."

(And immigration reform, but I don't want to make this thread more rabid than it already is.)

 

[The Yankee]

Sure, Bush has flip-flopped plenty. Surprisingly, this thread isn't about Bush.

 

[Stewbert 08]

No, I'm saying it's a silly standard. Withdrawing a policy proposal isn't "flip flopping."

Being for something for decades and then against it when you have to run for Pre - wait, this thread isn't about Romney either.

 

[Fifty]

Seriously, her facial expression just makes me want to punch her. Every time I look at mark1031's avatar I just get mad and want to punch her. It's just so freaking stupid!

 

[Stewbert 08]

Hillary's real flip flop is, of course, the war.

 

[Japanrocks12]

As opposed to a male who hates video games?

nope. video game haters need to get with the times

 

[Bast]

I don't like violent video games and Hillary has a good point there.

 

[downtown]

nope. video game haters need to get with the times

or what?

There is no research to lead anybody to believe that "single issue video game voters" exist. In fact, the demographics that are affected by video game legislation are too young to vote...or, are 18-24 year old males.

Which happen to be the demographic that votes the least.

 

[Japanrocks12]

or what?

There is no research to lead anybody to believe that "single issue video game voters" exist. In fact, the demographics that are affected by video game legislation are too young to vote...or, are 18-24 year old males.

Which happen to be the demographic that votes the least.

I know, the topic was "why we hate hillary", and I struggled for a while to determine exactly why I hate her. then I saw the video game option and was like, ah hell, I'll go with it.

 

[willemvanoranje]

or what?

There is no research to lead anybody to believe that "single issue video game voters" exist. In fact, the demographics that are affected by video game legislation are too young to vote...or, are 18-24 year old males.

Which happen to be the demographic that votes the least.

Well, I have never seen any research that shows there isn't a reason to believe that single issue video game voters excist. Then again, theory doesn't really lead us to believe there might be. Maybe it's time for a continuation of Inglehart and Flanagan here... post-postmaterialism.. we move from social security to treehugging to video games. Value change... nice concept.

 

[Murky]

I cannot think of any politician in recent memory that inspires as much hate, for as few real reasons, as Hillary Clinton.

Many posters, from the left, right and center, appear to despise her. They write about how she'll ruin the country, how she's a lesbian, a communist, or worse.

I suspect that many of us don't really know WHY we hate her...but thanks to constant media bombarding, we do. So please, vote in poll, for as many reasons as you can think of for hating Hillary Clinton, then tell us why.

Poll Coming,

Well, if Rudy Guilani becomes President the hate he will receive will dwarf the current hate towards Dubya and Hillary combined.