Why would an omnipotent being ever get angry?

[Triewd]

Humans in our self centeredness. "The flood!!! It must be all about us, right?"

It plays out on the human level every day.

"Why would you do such a thing to me???"

"Ummmm. Errrrrmmmm. Who are you, exactly? And what was it I've done?"

Scary thought what if God is all powerful allows freewill:

But does not even really care about us as he has a million alien races to also consider? and is quite busy figuring out the Universe of possibles

 

[W|M]

So maybe God flooded us just cuz he didn't like how his Civilization was turning out & wanted a restart but humans in our frail understanding made it about wickedness, butt-humping & future Russel Crowe movies?

Probably started somewhere full of desert and right next to both the Aztecs and the Zulu

 

[Leoreth]

Sim games are actually not a bad metaphor for a deity. The question you need to answer is what is the goal? What do all the sim people work toward? Would it make sense to them if they could see it?

I hope you don't mean the latest Sim City, or else you have a much more cynical view on the world than I would have thought.

But omnipotence only means potentially being totally in control. An omnipotent being does not have to exercise this control.

So you mean its anger is mostly directed at itself?

 

[Gucumatz]

I have always enjoyed the Maya interpretation of creation. The dominant creatures on earth were not capable of reaching the potential the gods wanted from them. The gods gave their creations opportunities to advance, but once it became clear limits were hit they would wipe out most of their creation and start over again - with each new dominant creature being more perfect than the last.

If there was an omnipotent force, which I do believe exists (just not in the way most people conceive of God), you have to wonder why we exist. As some sort of experiment? Something to make God less lonely? Or to be part of a goal/tool that we are not aware of in nature. Humanity has the capability to do so much, I would argue when natural forces/human interaction create pain for others - that isn't God being angry - but instead just part of our freedom which we adjust to, in order to reach our potential. The laws of nature bind us all, but who is to say we can't steer elements of time and organized chaos into laws of singularity transcending our origins?

TL;DR - Its not anger, but an opportunity for us to exist, thrive, and advance.

 

[Akka]

But how can you know that you are loved if forced to? Being Omnipotent doesn't mean you use it all the time. But When God does get angry you don't want to be the subject of his wrath.

"I love you, so I'll rain fire and brimstone on you, to punish you for having used the gift I made to you."

God is just an abusive father with serious mental issues, it seems.

I loved playing Black and White

[...] its a very fun game who dos not engage in sadism every so often?

I must confess that when I played this game, I slapped beyond what was needed my poor, poor creature while it had this poor helpless air "what's happening to me ?" on its face.
Worst of it, it was still pretty funny. And at the same time, I felt bad toward the poor bunch of animated pixels.

I must be a very bad boy inside

 

[Mechanicalsalvation]

"I love you, so I'll rain fire and brimstone on you, to punish you for having used the gift I made to you."

God is just an abusive father with serious mental issues, it seems.

Being a mental being is serious issue on its own. God isnt likely a mental being at all. Which may creates some serious misunderstanding for those who think so...

 

[warpus]

Omnipotence just means that you're infinitely powerful, so I don't see a contradiction there at all. There's no logical contradiction to have an infinitely powerful being who gets mad if you leave the milk out, that I can see anyway.

 

[Borachio]

Yeah.

But why would the infinitely powerful being get mad if you leave the milk out?

What's a normal person mad about if you leave the milk out? The fact that the milk might go off if you leave it out?

But how could the milk going off be a problem for an infinitely powerful being? An infinitely powerful being could just turn the milk back on again.

What we're left with is an infinitely powerful being who's getting mad about nothing.

Hence, the question: what's an infinitely powerful being got to be mad about?

And the answer has to be nothing.

They could, though, just be getting mad because they like getting mad. I've known people like that, too.

 

[PhroX]

Not to mention, an omnipotent being has the power to ensure the milk was never left out in the first place. So it's his fault it was left out - if he didn't want it left out, he would've stopped it being left out. So why is he mad at you?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Not to mention, an omnipotent being has the power to ensure the milk was never left out in the first place. So it's his fault it was left out - if he didn't want it left out, he would've stopped it being left out. So why is he mad at you?

I was apparently made by that omnipotent being. I don't drink milk, therefor I never leave it out.

 

[warpus]

Yeah.

But why would the infinitely powerful being get mad if you leave the milk out?

Who knows.. Maybe because you're being an idiot and wasted something this being created? Maybe because you were lazy when it happened and the being doesn't like people who are lazy?

The point is that there is no contradiction, you can imagine many scenarios where this would happen. I mean, it's possible that this being cares about your upbringing and just doesn't want you to create unnecessary waste.

 

[Borachio]

But the infinitely powerful being could just make you not an idiot and not lazy, and make the milk not off.

I can imagine no scenario in which the infinitely powerful being was helpless. And consequently there's no reason to be mad.

Only victims of circumstance can ever get mad, and the infinitely powerful being can never be a victim whatever happens.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Who knows.. Maybe because you're being an idiot and wasted something this being created? Maybe because you were lazy when it happened and the being doesn't like people who are lazy?

The point is that there is no contradiction, you can imagine many scenarios where this would happen. I mean, it's possible that this being cares about your upbringing and just doesn't want you to create unnecessary waste.

But why would the omnipotent being that doesn't like lazy wastrels have made a lazy wastrel? And if it did, wouldn't it be easy enough to just fix the lazy wastrel rather than get mad about it?

EDIT: The omnipotent being has turned Borachio into a ninja!!!

 

[warpus]

But the infinitely powerful being could just make you not an idiot and not lazy, and make the milk not off.

Yeah, but maybe he's set up this scenario in which potentially idiotic beings run around drinking milk, and he's set on the experiment working out such at that no milk is spoiled.

I can imagine no scenario in which the infinitely powerful being was helpless. And consequently there's no reason to be mad.

Being mad is often an irrational response to a situation. It doesn't follow that the being has to be helpless - just that it doesn't enjoy the situation as it unfolded - leading to anger.

It's an all-powerful being but not necessarily all-knowing, so it couldn't have predicted the outcome of the situation. Haven't you ever gotten mad at an experiment that didn't turn out the way you hoped? I mean, you're not all powerful I presume, but it doesn't really make a difference. If something doesn't go your way - you might have the power available to fix the situation right away, but you might still be annoyed that it happened in the first place. Heck, you might have had the power available to prevent it from happening - but maybe you wanted to see it play out without your interference. Many possibilities here.

But why would the omnipotent being that doesn't like lazy wastrels have made a lazy wastrel? And if it did, wouldn't it be easy enough to just fix the lazy wastrel rather than get mad about it?

Maybe it's a mentally unstable all powerful being. Maybe it sucks at planning. Maybe it creates beings which have the potential to turn into lazy dumbarses or non-lazy geniuses, depending on how much work they put into their development.

I mean, I don't think that we can presume to be able to predict the behavioural patters of an all-powerful being which didn't even evolve on the planet, like we did. Maybe it would just cry all the time and be all emo and crap. It's impossible to say. And either way, there are no logistical or physical contradictions with this being getting mad at something, just because it's all-powerful. From my experience, people who have more power are easier to incense into madness to begin with - but again that is just a puny human perspective.

 

[Akka]

Being a mental being is serious issue on its own. God isnt likely a mental being at all. Which may creates some serious misunderstanding for those who think so...

Of course God is not a mental being. God is a myth created by people, that much is extremely obvious.

What I did was called "mockery".

 

[Perfection]

Having to be freaking perfect all the goddamn time.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

God is a myth created by people, that much is extremely obvious.

If it is so obvious why does the vast majority of the population of the planet disagree with you?

 

[Wolfbeckett]

Sim games are actually not a bad metaphor for a deity. The question you need to answer is what is the goal? What do all the sim people work toward? Would it make sense to them if they could see it?

J

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/01/20

 

[Lefty Scaevola]

Unless he had just recently transcended from a human, I doubt that an omnipotent being, or for that matter, any alien intelligence which had evolved in an environment much different from ours, would have anything recognizable as a human emotion. Our emotions are largely survival instincts adapted during pre civilization hunter gather days. 4,000 years of civilization is nowhere near enough to change those adaptions from hundreds of thousands of stone age years.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Unless he had just recently transcended from a human, I doubt that an omnipotent being, or for that matter, any alien intelligence which had evolved in an environment much different from ours, would have anything recognizable as a human emotion. Our emotions are largely survival instincts adapted during pre civilization hunter gather days. 4,000 years of civilization is nowhere near enough to change those adaptions from hundreds of thousands of stone age years.

Especially since they still work.