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Would Communism Be Better Than Capitalism?
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Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Yes, I was just thinking the same thing.
Rhymes
Drive 4 25 is back
Communism doesn't exist. Even in theory, the theory is full of false assumptions and fallacies.
Just like democracy.
Eukaryote
Deity
If it was the ideal communist society and it actually worked then yes. Of course that would be better. Psycologists have shown that once you have enough money to meet your needs, extra money has a negligible influence of happiness. Therefore, the best way to allocate resources, if you can figure out a way to do it, is meet everyone's needs.
aelf
Ashen One
Capitalism doesn't exist. Even in theory, the theory is full of false assumptions and fallacies.
Aleksey_aka_al
Smiley
Right, and the free market is actually planned economy.
Tani Coyote
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A society free of poverty, hunger, inequality? Seems rather nice on the surface. A definite plus.
Cons - it also assumes people will all be rational actors and make the best choices. Hint: they won't. Communism has the same weakness that laissez-faire capitalism does; most individuals simply do not make the best long-term choices.
Capitalism has a con of creating massive inequalities and, as communists would allege, creating conflicts for the pursuit of profit and resources.
On the other hand, capitalism's wealth concentration rewards those with good management skills and innovation. Though to be fair, capitalism also eats away at itself - the wealthy become entrenched and then start tearing down the good parts of the system, such as the idea that the successful will get rich while failures will stay at the bottom. The wealthy pursue their interests at the expense of society, which would be the biggest fault.
I'm a capitalist of the present and a communist of the future.
Cons - it also assumes people will all be rational actors and make the best choices. Hint: they won't. Communism has the same weakness that laissez-faire capitalism does; most individuals simply do not make the best long-term choices.
Capitalism has a con of creating massive inequalities and, as communists would allege, creating conflicts for the pursuit of profit and resources.
On the other hand, capitalism's wealth concentration rewards those with good management skills and innovation. Though to be fair, capitalism also eats away at itself - the wealthy become entrenched and then start tearing down the good parts of the system, such as the idea that the successful will get rich while failures will stay at the bottom. The wealthy pursue their interests at the expense of society, which would be the biggest fault.
I'm a capitalist of the present and a communist of the future.
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
What theory do you mean?
I would say that we prioritise allowing people to make these choices above whether or not they make them correctly. "Libertarianism", I believe it's called?
A planned economy is actually the goal of the advocates of the truly "free market".
civver_764
Deity
Correct, just one being planned by the same people who stand to profit from it.
onedreamer
Dragon
I'd prefer something in the middle. Take the best part of both and try and make them work together.
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
Not so much libertarianism.I would say that we prioritise allowing people to make these choices above whether or not they make them correctly. "Libertarianism", I believe it's called?
Traitorfish
The Tighnahulish Kid
Is it possible to synthesise a commodity-based economy with a non-commodity based economy? That seems a contradiction in terms.
I'm not sure what you mean?
Rashiminos
Fool Prophet
I edited the post.
Rhymes
Drive 4 25 is back
Indeed. But the system based on the illusion of capitalism is far more livable then the system based on the illusion of communism.
aelf
Ashen One
Oh, so the goalposts have moved. Now it's about whose illusions are better. Give me a sec and I'll think up an even better illusion for you... Oh wait, this is a family-friendly forum.
Rhymes
Drive 4 25 is back
I mean marxism (and its underlying precepts)... I was hoping no one would dare to bring up anarcho communism and the likes...
onedreamer
Dragon
In my opinion it is possible (besides anything is possible when you write an utopia). It is a matter of changing perspectives. For example don't think of it in general but with more focus. Some issues can be faced with a more communist approach and some others with a more capitalist approach, without having to make the whole thing a mix, but a mix de facto.
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