Would the GOP types push the USA into default ?

[FriendlyFire]

I know there were a lot of rumors that Gannon was a gay prostitute, but I think he was much the Bush lover.

Bush and Republicans were only supporting the Military like the patriots that they are !

 

[FriendlyFire]

All the other members of Congress meet your standards of personal courage I take it? They are truly acting as they believe is right then, without taking heed of their electorate?

If Republican believed the world was flat would you admire them for there "conviction" and "courage" ? Or would you think they are "the party of stupid" and "lemmings with suicide vest" ?

 

[bugwar]

And the yoikes just keep getting better:




Link to video.

 

[bugwar]

If Republican believed the world was flat would you admire them for there "conviction" and "courage" ? Or would you think they are "the party of stupid" and "lemmings with suicide vest" ?

While it may be a bit of a disappointment for some, Republicans don't believe the world is flat.
So I fail to see your point.

EDIT: Of course, if your point is to say that those advocating fiscal responsibility are stupid for wanting to get the budget into something resembling balance, then your tale makes a bit more sense.

 

[JollyRoger]

If you were trying to balance your household budget, do you think it would be fiscally responsible to demand less pay from your job?

 

[bugwar]

If you were trying to balance your household budget, do you think it would be fiscally responsible to demand less pay from your job?

Ya lost me on that one.

 

[JollyRoger]

If you were needing to balance your household budget, do you think it would be fiscally responsible to quit your current job and a take a lower paying one? It seems a simple enough question to me.

 

[bugwar]

If you were needing to balance your household budget, do you think it would be fiscally responsible to quit your current job and a take a lower paying one? It seems a simple enough question to me.

Depends on if I liked my job.

More than likely, I would just reduce my bills to match my income.

Ya know, things like not sending grandma on that two week cruise to Bahama this year.

 

[JollyRoger]

So it is fiscally responsible to reduce your income in the face of massive debt?

 

[bugwar]

So it is fiscally responsible to reduce your income in the face of massive debt?

Good question.

Am I currently spending more than I make, or is the debt level fixed, and just taking a long time to pay off?

 

[JollyRoger]

Either way, it would seem fairly irresponsible to purposely cut your income, right?

 

[bugwar]

Either way, it would seem fairly irresponsible to purposely cut your income, right?

As you know, it depends on the situation.
Your scenario as described is too vague to provide a rational answer.

If I am spending more than I earn, and working 80-hour weeks to pay for it, it makes sense to cut the spending a LOT
and drop some of the hours worked to a level I can handle without wrecking my health from exhaustion. In that scenario,
it makes sense to both cut spending and lower income. Is that the situation you are refering to?

Again, without enough data to make an informed decision, I can only guess at what is responsible behavior.

 

[FriendlyFire]

So I fail to see your point.

Do you believe that Republicans have courage, conviction and principle for calling themselves (Republicans) "the party of stupid" and "lemmings with suicide vest" ?

 

[Oerdin]

Would the GOP types push the USA into default on it's debts unless Obamacare is dropped ?
In other words would those tea party nutters pull a samson option unless they get their own way ?

How the hell can the GOP have control of the house when they got over a million votes less than the Democrats ?

They have control of the house only because of gerrymandering. It's basically a tactic to undermine democracy.

BTW several of the tea baggers have stupidly been claiming that default would be no big deal and some have even claimed default would improve the economy. They're, of course, raving lunatics but fortunately the business community is turning against the Republicans and will likely force them to shut their crazies up.

 

[Leoreth]

BTW several of the tea baggers have stupidly been claiming that default would be no big deal and some have even claimed default would improve the economy. They're, of course, raving lunatics but fortunately the business community is turning against the Republicans and will likely force them to shut their crazies up.

No no, see, this is conviction, and courage.

Nobody ever said convictions have to be right, and it certainly takes courage to express blatantly wrong convictions in public.

 

[bugwar]

Do you believe that Republicans have courage, conviction and principle for calling themselves (Republicans) "the party of stupid" and "lemmings with suicide vest" ?

If they really believe that is so, then yes.
If you believe you are wrong, it is usually considered a good thing to own up to it.

 

[Cutlass]

Oh. So listening to what the voters want, and allowing their input to influence their decisions is contrary to doing what they think is right?

OK.

So in your view, only the 'moderate' Republicans don't have the intestinal fortitude to follow their beliefs, regardless of what the people who elected them want?

All the other members of Congress meet your standards of personal courage I take it?
They are truly acting as they believe is right then, without taking heed of their electorate?

These Republicans are utter cowards. They are sniveling puling whimpering children. They are destroying America just because if they don't they'll face a primary challenge and maybe lose the job that they refuse to do.

 

[El_Machinae]

Ya know, things like not sending grandma on that two week cruise to Bahama this year.

I'll say again, Medicare D. It needs a bipartisan solution, and it is easily worth some give and take.

I know the Tea Party is concerned about overspending on things that could be called 'stimulus' and 'automatic stabilizers'. I think those have been mishandled too. There's also an underlying issue regarding overborrowing and the death of the median wage. Stimulus and automatic stabilizers are going to be an ongoing crisis as long as there's no real insight on how to fix the economic growth problem.

 

[JollyRoger]

As you know, it depends on the situation.
Your scenario as described is too vague to provide a rational answer.

If I am spending more than I earn, and working 80-hour weeks to pay for it, it makes sense to cut the spending a LOT
and drop some of the hours worked to a level I can handle without wrecking my health from exhaustion. In that scenario,
it makes sense to both cut spending and lower income. Is that the situation you are refering to?

Again, without enough data to make an informed decision, I can only guess at what is responsible behavior.

I'm talking fiscal responsibility, not about your health. There are two components - income and expenditures. Is it fiscally responsible to move either component in a direction that works against your ability to reduce any deficit or debt?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

http://www.nationaljournal.com/cong...-tried-to-negotiate-with-republicans-20131007

Not even 20! Bloody uncompromising Democrats