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Seven seconds show serious speech sufferance
It's not that he forgot about very first sentence in the DoI, which is bad enough, it's the way he carried on through it.
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Have you seen other clips?
Seven seconds show serious speech sufferance
It's not that he forgot about very first sentence in the DoI, which is bad enough, it's the way he carried on through it.
Yeah, that's not at all reminiscent of anything I've seen in dementia patients. It's very familiar as the type of thing I've seen in people suffering from speech impediments. But I mean, I don't know. I'm not an expert. Nor have I seen any opinions from an expert (contra Trump, who has been the subject of actual clinical opinions from e.g. Bandy X. Lee). So I'm not taking the concern trolling from a lot of Trumpists and hardcore pro-Sanders commentators at complete face value. It's not the reason those people actually oppose Biden.
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Proof of Biden's mental decay...he pointed out and introduced the local congressman who was attending one of his campaign speeches and said "stand up, Chuck" so that the crowd could see their congressman there. He's looking right at dude who is in a wheelchair. Must be age.
Oh, wait, that was during his last presidential campaign, not this one.
Maybe it's just that people who talk all the time, on recordings, are inevitably going to be caught in errors.
Oh, wait, that was during his last presidential campaign, not this one.
Maybe it's just that people who talk all the time, on recordings, are inevitably going to be caught in errors.
It's not about the error, it's about how confused he is and how unable to correct himself he is. President my boss... making an error is saying 150 million people died instead of 150,000, million/thousand it's a one word error, that's more palatable. Forgetting someone's name that you worked with for 8 years goes further. Rambling on when you don't know what you're talking about goes further still (you know, you know, the thing)
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Have you ever read off a teleprompter? Just curious.
I'm a really fast reader, and a pretty skilled public speaker (of the limited notes, combination memory and extemporaneous sort) and I had a hard time reading books out loud to my kids...when I was not old at all. I have no idea if I could work off a teleprompter at all, much less do it well.
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He mistook his own sister for his wife, he's been consistantly confused and disorientated during debates and moments with the public and press, he's made rambling comments that make no sense, even with greater context given.
Does he need to physically **** himself on stage, play around with and smear the caca on himself before you start to realize that biden clearly isn't at the top of his game?
Does he need to physically **** himself on stage, play around with and smear the caca on himself before you start to realize that biden clearly isn't at the top of his game?
I see a lot of high class, professional public speaking in my profession. Two examples spring to mind: first, a highly sought after guy with a really terrible stutter, can barely string a sentence together in regular conversation. But his mind is one of the sharpest in the business and once he's actually prepared his thoughts he is perfectly loquacious and eloquent. Sometimes he is knocked off balance by an unexpected question, and his stutter comes back out. It's not the most edifying sight. But he gets it back under control. Second, a quite senior (early 60s) operator charging around $15k a day. I saw him have an off day, and it was truly horrendous, he was barely able to get his thoughts together and blurt out his argument. But it wasn't some mental decay, it was just an off day. He gets like that sometimes because his specialty is belligerence and bluster, not elegant turns of phrase.
I'm not saying either situation is the same for Biden. But the people saying that the examples being thrown up are proof positive of senility must not have had much experience with people who experience actual cognitive decline or speech difficulties, or just public speaking in general.
I'm not saying either situation is the same for Biden. But the people saying that the examples being thrown up are proof positive of senility must not have had much experience with people who experience actual cognitive decline or speech difficulties, or just public speaking in general.
Its interesting that you mention this, because I recently heard a Biden interview with Anderson Cooper where he actually talked about overcoming his childhood stuttering. In any case, I think you essentially hit the nail on the head in describing how I feel about the criticism I'm hearing here of Biden's "mental faculties":
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Well, Biden doesn’t have a stutter. He has early stage cognitive decline, a disorder that does not improve, it only gets worse. Biden always had a messy head (absent-mindedness, scatterbrain), I’m 45 and share that trait, I know a messy head. I can forget names when I address a crowd or speak in public, but this is something else. You don’t go off on tangents. You don’t start mumbling and bumbling on about keeping record-players on at night for children to hear words. You don’t stand there with the dead glare of a wax puppet after you delivered a word salad. You are aware that you did not make sense.
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I understand that Barrack Obama has been very careful not to endorse any candidate.
I suspect that that might be because he believes none of them are up to it.
I suspect that that might be because he believes none of them are up to it.
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People need to stop making excuses for Biden, even without his brain issues he's a terrible person and only looks good when compared to Trump and even then he still sucks on his own merits
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You are correct so far in that Biden is not a great choice and will most likely deliver Trump 2.0 next election if he ever managed to win a general election. It's time for the opposition in US and elsewhere to stop cave in and compromise to the right when they get very little back. It’s going to end in an uprising. It’s time to stop kicking the can down the same old road and responsibly take on the severe problems of inequality within a democracy.
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I read some interesting data that said that even though Dem voters have shifted quite to the left in the last 4 years, the primaries so far have had more moderate and conservative voters as a percentage than expected, making the progressive vote less as a percentage, because lots of independents and Republicans are voting in Dem primaries when possible, much more so than before. I guess this suggests that Biden can win that support, but it also suggest Democrats lost and Republicans won, because even a worst case Republican scenario is one where they get to dictate the more moderate candidate to Dem party members.
Well, good for you that you don't say it is stuttering - though you lead by saying it probably is. Stuttering doesn't tend to make you replace just any random word with the one you wanted to use, I am sure you know that. I have considerable experience with public speaking, also reading from a prompter (for making videos for literary seminars), and have a history of dealing with spells of stuttering. You would NEVER just say random crap (let alone when speaking to a large crowd...) just so as to save yourself from a stutter. The norm is to try to find something applicable - even if it is considerably less poignant - to get through the spell.
Sure, stuttering may well be co-morbid, but that isn't the core of Biden's serious issues. No degree of stuttering would get one to call someone "a lying dog-faced pony soldier" or the other ridiculous garbage Biden makes himself spew. You don't condense "Iowa was a democratic caucus" to "I was a democratic caucus" either due to stuttering. And he seems oblivious to every false note he hits as well, which if you see people with stuttering again I'm sure you get is not the case (one is extremely aware of what is going on, which is what makes the stuttering be there, due to pressure).
So I would be interested in you explaining why you think it is probably stuttering, when nothing of the kind seems to be so (it seems to be just co-morbid and not on its own account for what is going on).
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Older Gen X is 90s alternative. I was in early highschool when Cobain offed himself.
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I dont think mixing up his wife and sister was bad, I didn't watch the video but they may have swapped places behind him. Its the forgetfulness of words and phrases that looks like dementia. Otoh people who talk fast, or are 'scatterbrained' and tend to ramble are far more prone to losing a train of thought and looking disoriented when in reality they're just going off on tangents without completing thoughts and I imagine even geniuses with intact faculties can do that. But combined with age (78 is old enough for dementia to start showing up) it is a concern, especially for someone called upon to debate political opponents.
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As a physician you should be aware that discussing your patient on the internet is a violation of the law.
Oh, wait, you probably aren't really his physician, are not qualified to make a diagnosis like this, have never been within a mile of the man, and are just talking out your ass.
Sure man. He's obviously lying about his reasons being exactly the same this time as they were four years ago.
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FTFY. 80s and 90s music fandom is exactly where a Gen-X'er would be. The older ones would lean 80s and the younger ones (like me) would lean more 90's, but that's our wheelhouse for sure.
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