Seriously? You think Ted is the best they can do? For the sake of discussion, other than Ted, who might make a run? Mark Meadows? Pence? Sean Hannity?
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onejayhawk
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The candidate is rarely the best the party can do.
Cruz has the advantage of a closed book. By that, I mean that Trump has not declared his non-candidacy leaving him the candidate presumptive. Any new faces would need to be running already. So, the field is probably only four--Cruz, Kasich, Pence, Rubio. Cruz is an easy choice in that group. Meadows is more likely to consider running for Senate. You threw Hannity's name as a joke, so I decline comment.
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Well, Hannity is definitely a joke, but so is Cruz, so I don't see why he made this distinction.
My money is on Paul Ryan for the next Republican nominee... assuming Ivanka is in jail.
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Ryan didn't suck up to Trump enough and the right wing propaganda sources have labeled him an irredeemable RINO. Hard to picture him recovering unless the GOP does a pretty complete turn around and gets out of the fringe weeds they are mired in.
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As a general principle, it's hard to picture how GOP candidates are going to frame themselves in the aftermath of Trump. Trumpism will long outlast Our Glorious Leader, so people will need to appeal to the Trumpists somehow. But there's also going to be powerful Trump-fatigue, or even Trump-revulsion, so too strong a connection to the Trumpists will be damaging as well.
The jam that drove people like Ryan and Flake out of even trying to make another bid will survive to vex GOP candidates, I think.
The jam that drove people like Ryan and Flake out of even trying to make another bid will survive to vex GOP candidates, I think.
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Yeah, he has forced the deep division in the GOP out into the open. For me, locally, the Republicans are trying to figure out what happened. For a generation, or more, the Republican congressman campaigned pretty much as a Democrat, then went to Washington and did whatever the evangelical lunatics told him to do...and no one paid enough attention to notice. His successor spent one term doing the same thing and Katie Hill cleaned his clock. The "but, we've always sided with the lunatics, we ARE Republicans, why have you turned on us now" issue appears insoluble, and Republican registration is cratering.
onejayhawk
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McConnell is the Turtle. We have found agreement.
Build on success.
Trump would win based on his record and the economy. The economy part has not changed. Pick one of the many aspects of Trump's legacy Republican's like and focus on that.
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Sanders helped create the war on people of color
but he did come out against reparations for slavery and Jim Crow... The drug war is the new Jim Crow. Will the victims get reparations?
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Instead of just saying that this post is stupid and disconnected from reality, or saying something about the poster, which is undoubtedly his purpose in throwing out bait like this, I've got some time to waste so I'm going to respond as if this was a serious statement that anyone could possibly be stupid enough to believe. Not that I think anyone that stupid might accidentally log in here and read it, because anyone that stupid most likely can't read, but just in case.
In the states where D'ump made his incursion into the "blue wall" the only thing he has successfully done is build a gigantic amount of buyer's remorse. The people who bought his bill of BS about being "an outsider" are now seeing that he is just a typical GOP lunatic, and a far fringe one at that. Every state where he pulled an upset went overwhelmingly back to the democrats last year. At the very least "running on his success" gets him comparably trounced to the trouncing Romney took in 2012. And "running on his success" also gets his enablers in the senate demolished, except for the ones who come from the terminally red and stupid states...and even in those the buyer's remorse is setting in.
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Yes let's merge Ryan's removal of the welfare state with Trump's hate for minorities and get remove the welfare state from minorities! GOP 2024!
onejayhawk
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I'll send you a map. With luck and a GPS you might be able to find reality from there.
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LOL...like you can even point in the general direction of reality from wherever it is that you hang around.
I've already told this story so I won't repeat the anecdote... but remember how much McCain was hated and despised by the base, FOX, Rush, etc., in 2008? Remember how that hatred just evaporated once he got the nomination? I think it will go similarly for Ryan.
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I converted my friend from a conservative to a leftist one night in 2008 in the swim practice carpool when he was saying McCain wasn't conservative enough and I asked him "why do you say that" and he couldn't really answer. I mean, it didn't happen all at once but I definitely trace his development of actual political thinking (as opposed to just saying whatever his parents or Catholic school friends said) to that moment.
Nothing is settled. 
They always say that.
They always say that.
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The hatred evaporated, but there wasn't any enthusiasm. The dingbat fringe had grown tired of candidates that paid them lip service but when push came to shove represented the mainstream. They were demanding that the GOP put up someone who would screw over 65% of the people they supposedly represent and throw a steady stream of red meat to the 35% crazies. Now that they have had their way for a term they are not going to just sit back down...at least in a primary. Whether they will sit down after their designated nut bag loses in November is questionable.
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