2020 US Election (Part One)

[Gori the Grey]

In the sweep of History, I think that we are going to see that 2018 and 2019 continue the trend of the rich getting richer.

Also in the near term. Like we can see this right now. We don't need to wait for any sweep of history. The rich are getting richer as a result of the tax cuts.

 

[El_Machinae]

You bet. I just mean that the statistics will be clearer based on longer analysis

 

[Takhisis]

I wonder how they'll keep supporting the ‘healthcare is not popular’ canard up if Bernie Sanders got the FOX News live audience to cheer at the prospect of healthcare for all.

 

[Berzerker]

Fox invited a cross section of people, supporters and opponents. They're probably trying to play nice since the Dems rejected them as hosts for debates. But health care is a winner for the Dems if not for their wealthy donors bribing them to keep the status quo. Medicare for all would still leave private insurance with the supplemental market to cover the gaps.

 

[Gori the Grey]

I wonder how they'll keep supporting the ‘healthcare is not popular’ canard up if Bernie Sanders got the FOX News live audience to cheer at the prospect of healthcare for all.

Fox invited a cross section of people, supporters and opponents.

Yeah, Trump has already tweeted that they were an "audience" (his quotes); so there's your answer, Tak. Axiom #1: Anything that reflects poorly on me or my policies is FAKE.

Also, he has tweeted that he thinks either Bernie or Biden will emerge as the Dem candidate, he will crush them in the election and then "God Rest Their Souls" (his words)

 

[Berzerker]

I heard about the audience make up from MSNBC

 

[Gori the Grey]

Oh, I actually believe it to be true: that Fox tried to assemble a more politically diverse audience for this event, therefore including Democrats, therefore including people more inclined to cheer for spreading the risk for health-care payments across the entire population.

And even if so (or all the more), it would be wrong to disparage such a body as an "audience."

 

[onejayhawk]

Fox has always been more politically diverse. Sean Hannity was once half a show, along with card-carrying liberal Alan Colmes. CNN was the station to give round table discussion with no conservative viewpoint. All this was 20-30 years ago. If anything, it's worse now. Fox just had Bernie Sanders on, for example. That cause great distress because Fox is portrayed has biased.

J

 

[rah]

Are you implying that CNN never has on any conservative guests?

 

[Zkribbler]

Fox has always been more politically diverse. Sean Hannity was once half a show, along with card-carrying liberal Alan Colmes.

Colmes was such a wuss.

 

[onejayhawk]

Are you implying that CNN never has on any conservative guests?

These days I cannot say because I don't have cable. Ten years ago they never did. I suspect it's worse rather than better.

Who is the last guest you can think of that would agree with Limbaugh on anything?

Colmes was such a wuss.

I have to agree. Hannity pwned him. Regardless, he was a genuine liberal to the day he died.

J

 

[Takhisis]

Are you implying that CNN never has on any conservative guests?

That does seem to be his particular canard of the day.

 

[FriendlyFire]

I have to agree. Hannity pwned him. Regardless, he was a genuine liberal to the day he died.J

He was there to be a well paid punching bag. As well as that he was often used by Hannity to carry out misc degrading tasks like cleaning to fetch quests.
Colmes never calls out Hannities many lies on air. Its just pure Threatre

 

[cardgame]

These days I cannot say because I don't have cable. Ten years ago they never did. I suspect it's worse rather than better.

Who is the last guest you can think of that would agree with Limbaugh on anything?

I thought we agreed on conservative, not insane.

 

[Cheetah]

It's the psychologization of racism that's partially to blame here. Racism is intrinsic to the structure of liberal society, but the demands of Cold War anticommunism meant, more or less, sweeping this under the rug and pretending racism was a problem of 'attitudes,' ie, an individualized problem that could be solved by 'education' or 'awareness'.

This isn't of course to deny that bigotry exists at the individual level, but solving the problems racism has created for our society is a rather larger task than changing individual attitudes.

Liberal society? If you'd written «capitalistic» society, I could have followed along better (though maybe not agreeing), but how does liberalism require racism??

 

[Lexicus]

I was using liberal interchangeably with capitalist there, basically to mean "people who dogmatically believe in private property". For example in the US liberals believe firmly in all the institutions that reproduce racism in society (the most important being the real estate market).

 

[Sommerswerd]

The Mueller Report is out... heavily redacted... comically so in some sections, particularly the ones involving Russian interference/collusion/hacking. The justification for most of the redactions is "Harm to Ongoing Matter".

 

[Broken_Erika]

The Mueller Report is out... heavily redacted... comically so in some sections, particularly the ones involving Russian interference/collusion/hacking. The justification for most of the redactions is "Harm to Ongoing Matter".

The ongoing matter harmed being Trumps presidency and/or ego.

 

[onejayhawk]

I thought we agreed on conservative, not insane.

Rush Limbaugh is mainstream conservative. If a guest does not regularly agree with him, he/she's not a conservative.

Back in the day, the McLaughlin Group ran with Pat Buchanan opposite four media players. That is at least offering the conservative view, even when he's outnumbered four to one. Only Fox does this now.

The ongoing matter harmed being Trumps presidency and/or ego.

Didn't you notice him dancing on the golf course?

J

 

[Broken_Erika]

This?

Spoiler :

I wouldn't exactly call it dancing........