2020 US Election (Part One)

[Timsup2nothin]

There. That sounds better. More accurate now.

Actually, now that I think of it, the word I would most use to describe President Trump starts with the letter "C".

I usually use "clown" because I reserve the one I suspect you mean for "lose your mind" applications. There are those words that are almost guaranteed to make certain subsets of the population flat out lose their minds, and that tends to be one of them.

 

[Farm Boy]

Cop?

 

[Broken_Erika]

Cleeborp!

 

[Farm Boy]

ET?

 

[Lemon Merchant]

Cleeborp!

That's close, Erika. But think of the nastiest thing you've ever been called...

 

[Farm Boy]

Oooh oooh, late for dinner!

 

[Zardnaar]

I'ma guessing it's See you next Tuesday.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Correct

 

[Sommerswerd]

MEANWHILE, ON PLANET EARTH,

Trump’s racist tweets are one of the lowest moments of his presidency - The Washington Post
The controversy over whether the media should call Trump’s racist tweets “racist,” explained - Vox.com
After President Trump's Racist Tweets, People Have Been Searching for the Definition of 'Racism' - TIME
Trump denies racist tweets were racist - CNN
White supremacists cheer Trump's racist tweets - CNN
Trump's racist tweets and the 'politics of distraction' - PBS NewsHour
Trump's racist tweets, and the politics of white identity - Washington Post
Colbert Scorches Trump Over Racist Tweets: “Racism Is Your Brand” - Vanity Fair
How a racist tweet became a Trump rally chant in three short days - The Washington Post
Morning Update: Trump Says His Racist Tweets Are Not Racist - BuzzFeed News
Rep. John Lewis on Trump tweets: 'I know racism when I see it' - USA TODAY
Nancy Pelosi was rebuked for calling Trump’s tweets racist. She can thank Thomas Jefferson and the Brits. - The Washington Post
Trump’s Racist Tweets, and the Question of Who Belongs in America - The New Yorker
White GOP congressman says he isn't offended by racist Trump tweets because 'I'm a person of color' - CNN
'I love the tweet': Eric Trump says 95% of Americans agree with his dad's message to love US or leave - USA TODAY
Trump’s Tweets Prove That He Is a Raging Racist - The New York Times
Comedians take aim at responses to Trump's racist tweets - CNN
By Republican Standards, Almost Nothing Is Racist - The Atlantic
Burnett: Trump is riding high after his racist tweets - CNN
'Go Back Where You Came From': The Long Rhetorical Roots Of Trump's Racist Tweets - NPR
White nationalist: Trump gives nothing but racist tweets - CNN
Ivanka Is Ignoring Donald Trump’s Racist Tweets - Vanity Fair
‘That’s all I’ve got’: Romney fails his own test on Trump’s racist tweets - The Washington Post
Comics slam Trump's racist tweets in Best of Late Night - USA TODAY
'The Squad' hit back over Trump's 'racist' tweets in CBS interview - BBC News
Politics Podcast: Trump’s Racist Tweets - FiveThirtyEight
Trump's Racist Tweets Came After He Faced Setbacks on Immigration Policy - TIME
‘Teflon Don’: Some say Trump’s racist remarks could hurt him — but history suggests otherwise - The Washington Post
Surprise: Steven Mnuchin Doesn’t Think Trump’s Racist Tweets Are Racist - Vanity Fair
Trump Defends Racist Tweets Aimed At Freshman Lawmakers, Reiterates Attack - NPR
Trump’s racist tweets come straight from the authoritarian playbook - The Washington Post
READ: House resolution to condemn Trump's racist tweets toward congresswomen - CNN
Where Is Ivanka? Her silence on the border crisis and on her father's racist tweets. - The Atlantic
White House Spokesman Doesn't Back Away From Trump's Racist Tweets - NPR
Amid Furor Over Racist Tweets, White House Announces Immigration Bill - NPR
Italy's Matteo Salvini shows the danger of Trump's racist tweets - Quartz
Trump 2020 Campaign Reacts To President's Racist Tweets - NPR
Yarmuth: Kentucky Republicans are 'going to have to live' with support of Trump's racism - Courier Journal
TribCast: Donald Trump's racist tweets, Beto O'Rourke's slaveholding ancestors - The Texas Tribune
5 things to know for July 16: Racist tweets, Assange, Puerto Rico, teens & screens - CNN
Theresa May and Opponents Condemn Trump's Racist Tweets - TIME
Former Arizona GOP Sen. Jeff Flake Weighs In On Trump's Racist Tweets - NPR
Trump’s racist tweets were written in the White House, which slaves helped build - Washington Post
'The Squad' condemn Trump's 'racist' tweets in CBS interview - BBC News
Donald Trump's 'racist' tweets are strategic and should surprise few - Sky News
Daines Stands Behind President's Racist Tweets - MTPR
Brian Stelter left speechless by Trump's racist tweet - CNN
President Trump Interrupts Democratic Infighting With Racist Tweets - Esquire
Tom Cotton on Trump's racist tweets: "The president is gonna tweet what he's gonna tweet" - Axios
Cuomo calls out Graham defending Trump's racist tweets - CNN
Opinion | Trump's racist tweets and the tired injunction to 'go back where you came from' - Crosscut
Melania Trump remains silent on husband's racist tweets despite having been a US citizen for shorter time than Ilhan Omar - The Independent
Young votes against condemning Trump for racist tweets - KTOO
House Minority Leader deflects on racist tweets: We are the party of Lincoln - CNN
July 17, 2019: Trump's Racist Tweets; Medical Myths | Here & Now - WBUR
President Trump rejects racist tweet allegations - BBC News
A racist tweet from a racist president – so why couldn't people call it out for what it was? - The Independent
Jeremy Corbyn calls Trump’s racist tweets racist - The Independent
Kellyanne Conway questions Jewish journalist's ethnicity when quizzed about Trump's racist tweets - The Independent
Merkel criticizes Trump over 'racist' tweets - Anadolu Agency
How Americans feel about Donald Trump's racist tweet attacking Democratic congresswomen - YouGov US
Seth Meyers condemns ‘racist gargoyle’ Trump - The Independent
Tweets condemned as racist are part of Trump's plan, and strategists say it may work - CBC News
Fear In America: From ICE Raids To Racist Tweets - WAMU 88.5
Kumail Nanjiani, Padma Lakshmi hit back at Trump's racist tweets - Los Angeles Times
What makes Trump's tweets racist? A historian explains - CBS News
Trump's go back to your country tweet: Trump's racist tweets against congresswomen prompt celebrities to share stories of racism and the times they've been told "go back to your country" - CBS News
Twitter didn't flag Trump's racist tweets - Engadget
Twitter chooses to not flag Trump's racist tweets - CNET
From birtherism to racist tweets: Trump's history of inflaming racial tensions - CBS News
House vote on Trump tweets: These four Republicans voted to condemn president's racist remarks said about Democratic women of Congress known as "The Squad" - CBS News
Meghan McCain 'Humiliated' By GOP's Non-Reaction To Trump's Racist Tweets - HuffPost
Trump’s “Go Back” Smears Are a Dangerous Escalation of His Bigotry - Slate
Fox News Bends Over Backward To Paint Trump Tweets As Anything But Racist - TPM
Ivanka Trump Keeps Ignoring Donald's Racist Tweets About Congresswomen While Promoting Her Women's Initiative - Newsweek
CNN Invites White Supremacist Richard Spencer to Talk About Trump's Racist Tweets - The Daily Beast
At Least One Trump Supporter Questions His Loyalty After President's Racist Tweets - NowThis
Trump tweets: President's supporters stand by him amid racist messages - CBS News
Trump Blasted Over Racist Tweets Targeting Congresswomen of Color While 'Fox & Friends' Laughs: 'Very Comedic' - The Daily Beast
Will Trump’s Racist Tweets Work? - New York Magazine
Trump is Tripling Down on His Racist Tweets Against "The Squad." Republicans Are Silent. - VICE News
Editorial: Trump’s racist tweets designed to divide nation in 2020 - The Mercury News
Trump says that his tweets being called racist 'doesn't concern' him because 'many people agree' with him - INSIDER
Chris Evans slams President Trump for ‘hateful and racist’ tweets - The Boston Globe

whew... All that typing and copy pasting and...

What'd that waste of time take you? 30 mins?

Of course Hobbs point was that it started turning around on this set of racist tweets so. . .

Now this guy gets it

 

[Kyriakos]

The tweets were already bad, but his speech that followed was just cringe-worthy.
By the way, the same rule (that you cannot call the potus racist) is there in the british parliament (possibly for all members of the house). As shown when the leader of the Scottish party called Boris racist for his obviously racist rants.

(Maybe) Even Trump has some way to go to be as openly racist as Boris.

"The scottish people are a verminous race, that should be placed in ghettos and exterminated", "africans have watermellon smiles" etc. Imagine Trump saying that and no one reacting much.

 

[AmazonQueen]

The tweets were already bad, but his speech that followed was just cringe-worthy.
By the way, the same rule (that you cannot call the potus racist) is there in the british parliament (possibly for all members of the house). As shown when the leader of the Scottish party called Boris racist for his obviously racist rants.

(Maybe) Even Trump has some way to go to be as openly racist as Boris.

"The scottish people are a verminous race, that should be placed in ghettos and exterminated", "africans have watermellon smiles" etc. Imagine Trump saying that and no one reacting much.

Laws of slander don't apply to Parliament. So long as they use an unparliamentary expression like calling someone a liar an MP can call another MP what they like.

 

[Farm Boy]

Given that's listed under urban dictionary as "polite" I think we have a new OT term of endearment.

 

[Kyriakos]

Laws of slander don't apply to Parliament. So long as they use an unparliamentary expression like calling someone a liar an MP can call another MP what they like.

Sure. Yet it isn't looking good when you can't say A is A. Boris has a long history of saying openly racist stuff.

 

[Arakhor]

You can say what you like in the Houses of Parliament, provided that it's not about a sitting MP. That's beyond the pale.

 

[Estebonrober]

Feckless. . .

The tweets were already bad, but his speech that followed was just cringe-worthy.
By the way, the same rule (that you cannot call the potus racist) is there in the british parliament (possibly for all members of the house). As shown when the leader of the Scottish party called Boris racist for his obviously racist rants.

(Maybe) Even Trump has some way to go to be as openly racist as Boris.

"The scottish people are a verminous race, that should be placed in ghettos and exterminated", "africans have watermellon smiles" etc. Imagine Trump saying that and no one reacting much.

There is a part of me that wishes our House would get confrontational like this, it came close the other day but Dems in their typical fashion largely backed off.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Of course Hobbs point was that it started turning around on this set of racist tweets so. . .

Yes and I'm also making the point that even the bad coverage is part of the problem. Major reporting has devolved into vapid click-baiting buzzfeed style journalism that does nothing but further entrench the body politic into fighting positions. I have read a few articles like the ones mentioned in that giant post and a shocking number of them are pure outrage pieces completely devoid of any substance. Seriously, any number of those articles will be three-paragraph hit pieces that can be summed up:
Trump is bad, really bad, and you won't guess what he's going to do next! And then the article just stops without actually saying anything substantive about what he did or what he might do next.

The problem with all this is that even though it's good journalists have started calling his racism for what it is, the signal to noise ratio has fallen through the floor such that major news falls through the cracks. Hardly anyone can filter through all the attention-grabbing garbage to get a picture of what's really happening in the government.

And while it may seem like the media attacks hurt Trump, it also helps him as his entire base loves nothing more than to be able to claim the media is 'unfairly' dogpiling their champion while a portion of his base just outright loves the racism.

 

[Estebonrober]

And while it may seem like the media attacks hurt Trump, it also helps him as his entire base loves nothing more than to be able to claim the media is 'unfairly' dogpiling their champion while a portion of his base just outright loves the racism.

His numbers shot up among his base immediately after his tweet. This honestly tells us everything we need to know about his base, about 1/3 of the American electorate, to understand the state of America at this point in time. It has likely always been this way, he just let them say it in the open again. Facebook (the boomer website it is) helped a lot in fertilizing the publicity of public racism. The optimist in me hopes it is like the light shining into the darkness and in a few years the population will come around to the cruelty they are perpetuating. I have my @Phrossack moments about this though.

In short its not just Trump that is racist. It truly is a third of america.

 

[Phrossack]

His numbers shot up among his base immediately after his tweet. This honestly tells us everything we need to know about his base, about 1/3 of the American electorate, to understand the state of America at this point in time. It has likely always been this way, he just let them say it in the open again. Facebook (the boomer website it is) helped a lot in fertilizing the publicity of public racism. The optimist in me hopes it is like the light shining into the darkness and in a few years the population will come around to the cruelty they are perpetuating. I have my @Phrossack moments about this though.

In short its not just Trump that is racist. It truly is a third of america.

I think that by now, optimism is increasingly dangerous. We were promised a "presidential pivot" years ago that never happened. We've gone from "c'mon, it's not like he's going to make concentration camps" to "I object to you calling them 'concentration camps'". We've gone from having our differences, to "Christian" rallies openly praying to God to "destroy Trump's enemies." And Trump saying we should "get rid of" journalists, and saying "we should try that sometime" about China's president-for-life system. And Trump claiming that Democrats want to "destroy" his supporters.

Let's face it: in just a few years, Trump has remade an already extreme GOP in his image. He and FOX have conditioned Republicans to hate their opponents even more. Don't think for even a second that Republicans wouldn't take up arms and kill at his command. They're armed, they're furious, they want to kill, they're fully obedient, and they truly believe they're in a life-or-death battle to the finish for their culture and the "soul of America."

Meanwhile, Democrats still have this bizarre faith that our institutions, which have already failed to constrain Trump meaningfully, can endure five or more years of this onslaught. They seem to think that all they have to do is win a rigged election and all their problems will go away. They won't. Trump has tens of millions of heavily armed fanatics at his command, a massive propaganda network, the backing of several foreign governments, and effective control of the Overton Window. Anything he does is automatically normalized to not only his cultists, but the vast swathes of the apolitical and the compulsively centrist who do not have any values of their own beyond their own wellbeing. If Trump says Democrats must be imprisoned, and Democrats disagree, they'll say that they don't really care about politics, and this is just saber-rattling, and anyway surely they can compromise.

So what will be done? As we've seen here at CFC, there are leftists who want open violence, yet have neglected to bring guns or friends with guns. Against far right militias, the police, the military, and the general public, they don't stand a chance. They'd have probably even worse odds than the German Communists after the Spartacist Uprising.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

I don't think optimism itself is dangerous but optimism without action is. The problems facing our country are worse than the draft but because people aren't being forcibly sent off to die, hardly anyone is protesting or taking meaningful action to stop it all. Every day I have to also live with the fact that while I am passionate about what's going on, I can't be assed to join a protest or canvas and I am therefore complicit in what's happening. Sure, I message my reps super frequently and make impassioned arguments here but I might as well be pissing in the wind for the good it's probably doing. That's happening writ large in the country and so I agree any optimism without action is irrational. I just don't agree that optimism itself is dangerous.

 

[Kyriakos]

You have elections in 2020. One has to assume that if Trump is that destructive for a majority of people, he will easily lose the election.
I certainly would want to see a Trump vs Bernie election debate. It will be fun and Bernie will destroy him.