2020 US Election (Part One)

[Socrates99]

Did Warren accuse him of being sexist? She definitely called him a liar.

More insinuation than actually saying it. She was upset and acted like he accused her of being a liar when he said he never said a woman couldn't win.

Warren has bad political instincts. Her own beliefs should easily have her at the front. It is bad political decisions that are hurting her. Wonder how much of her staff is former Clinton staff that managed to lose to an orange clown.

 

[Narz]

Yang back in the next debate

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/26/7996...drew-yang-back-on-the-democratic-debate-stage

A flurry of qualifying polls released Sunday has put tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang back on the Democratic debate stage.

Yang is the seventh candidate to qualify for the Feb. 7 debate in Manchester, N.H., which is just four days ahead of the primary there.

The 45-year-old had missed January's debate in Iowa. Prior to that televised tussle, Yang had decried what he called a lack of qualifying surveys and had asked the Democratic National Committee to commission more polling. It did not.

But Yang hit one of the DNC's debate thresholds in four surveys released just on Sunday. He got 7% and 5% in separate national polls, and 5% in two New Hampshire surveys.

To make the New Hampshire debate, candidates must register at 5% or more in four qualifying national or early-state polls released between Dec. 13, 2019, and Feb. 6; or at least 7% in two early-state polls during that period. And they have to get 225,000 unique donors from at least 20 states.

Alternatively, a candidate could make the debate stage by garnering at least one delegate from the Feb. 3 Iowa caucuses.

"America has spoken. Voters clearly missed Andrew Yang's presence in the most recent debate and now they are making sure he will be on the debate stage in New Hampshire," his campaign chief Nick Ryan said in a statement.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Good for him. I hope more drop out soon though.

 

[Narz]

Good for him. I hope more drop out soon though.

I wouldn't be sad to see Klobuchar & Pete go.

 

[Cloud_Strife]

Yang is still fundamentally the same as Pete; an empty suit.

 

[Sommerswerd]

Disagree... UBI alone is a pretty radical idea and a substantial change from the status quo.

 

[stinkubus]

Disagree... UBI alone is a pretty radical idea and a substantial change from the status quo.

There's ways to raise that issue without running a stunt campaign. I'm cynical enough to be wary of anyone in the race who has no legitimate chance of winning.

 

[Narz]

There's ways to raise that issue without running a stunt campaign. I'm cynical enough to be wary of anyone in the race who has no legitimate chance of winning.

No one knows the future. Trump's campaign was considered a stunt campaign by just about everyone for the first few months.

Having so many candidates may be annoying but they have the right to be there.

 

[stinkubus]

No one knows the future. Trump's campaign was considered a stunt campaign by just about everyone for the first few months.

Having so many candidates may be annoying but they have the right to be there.

Andrew Yang isn't going to be on the cable news networks nearly 24 hours a day this cycle. Trump got some pretty big assists from the "establishment" institutions which supposedly reviled him and wanted to prevent him from winning. I'm not just talking about the media, either. Establishment GOP probably preferred him despite their protestations to the contrary. Kasich (who never had a chance) did not drop out until Cruz was mathematically eliminated. Why?

A packed primary field is more than just annoying. A packed field plus low turn out (primary turn is always very low) was one of the decisive factors in Trump's victory, imo.

 

[Takhisis]

I'm cynical enough to be wary of anyone in the race who has no legitimate chance of winning.

And yet fringe candidates with no legitimate chance of winning are what multibillionaires such as Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers, Donald Trump, the Walton family and so on have been successfully funding to shift the Overton window back towards Gilded Age standards.

 

[IglooDame]

And yet fringe candidates with no legitimate chance of winning are what multibillionaires such as Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers, Donald Trump, the Walton family and so on have been successfully funding to shift the Overton window back towards Gilded Age standards.

I know this is splitting hairs, but I hear Tom Steyer daily tell me how Trump is a fake billionaire, and Tom is a real one. And lots of people are telling me Michael Bloomberg is a real one, too.

 

[Takhisis]

Yyyeah, and that still doesn't mean that Donald Trump didn't spend decades funding the campaigns of various politicians, including a certain Ms. Rodham.

 

[IglooDame]

Yyyeah, and that still doesn't mean that Donald Trump didn't spend decades funding the campaigns of various politicians, including a certain Ms. Rodham.

That's why I said I was splitting hairs - he's not a multibillionaire alongside the others you name. And for that matter, not known as a big politics guy (unlike the Koch brothers, or George Soros, or Michael Bloomberg, or the Waltons), from what I recall.

 

[Takhisis]

You sound a bit like Monty Burns moaning about how he has a mere 999,999,999 dollars and those billionaires scoff at him, to be honest.

 

[IglooDame]

You sound a bit like Monty Burns moaning about how he has a mere 999,999,999 dollars and those billionaires scoff at him, to be honest.

Sorry, clearly Tom Steyer's enthusiasm got to me.

But in general I think your point about billionaires spending money to support Republicans is overly narrow, when you have billionaires spending money to support Democrats, too. It's a corrosive effect no matter what the letter after the name.

 

[amadeus]

Kasich (who never had a chance) did not drop out until Cruz was mathematically eliminated. Why?

In John Kasich’s case, you don’t get free apple pie and hot dogs from every greasy spoon diner on your campaign tour if you say “I’m going to stay the governor of Ohio.”

 

[Kyriakos]

Chris Matthews: I think people will vote for the candidate who would stop their car to help you if you were hurt on the road. Biden would stop to do that, Warren maybe. Bernie wouldn't.

ahahahaha, this is beyond the twilight zone.
Seems Chris only is anti-war when there is no risk of an anti-war person being voted in. What a piece of crap he is.

 

[Estebonrober]

Sorry, clearly Tom Steyer's enthusiasm got to me.

But in general I think your point about billionaires spending money to support Republicans is overly narrow, when you have billionaires spending money to support Democrats, too. It's a corrosive effect no matter what the letter after the name.

what do the conspiracy theorists call this? Constructive opposition. I mean it really feels that way as a millennial who has watched the elite tear down at the social contract of the nation in the last thirty years.

Chris Matthews: I think people will vote for the candidate who would stop their car to help you if you were hurt on the road. Biden would stop to do that, Warren maybe. Bernie wouldn't.

ahahahaha, this is beyond the twilight zone.

Chris Matthews wouldn’t stop to help you. Everyone should stop watching him because he’s mean.

I mean people should stop watching news altogether imo but that’s beside the point.

 

[Narz]

Chris Matthews: I think people will vote for the candidate who would stop their car to help you if you were hurt on the road. Biden would stop to do that, Warren maybe. Bernie wouldn't.

ahahahaha, this is beyond the twilight zone.
Seems Chris only is anti-war when there is no risk of an anti-war person being voted in. What a piece of crap he is.

Lol, Biden strikes me as just as unconcerned about things not related to his ego as Trump.

 

[Socrates99]

Lol, Biden strikes me as just as unconcerned about things not related to his ego as Trump.

He's not much better imo. Just a little less over the top nasty.