2020 US Election (Part One)

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So are there gonna be any republican debates?
The RNC has not scheduled any debates as President Trump is running for re-election.

Doing a quick search, I don't see any incumbent of either party having participated in their own party's debate since FDR. I don't mean to say that FDR debated as an incumbent, just that I didn't look beyond that.
 
So... will you guys ever actually release the results of the vote? Clown Pete for some bizarre reason claims he won it, when he clearly has not, so this is getting more serious than just rigging (rigging is one thing, a candidate claiming they won when they lost is another).
 
I think this is why Joe Biden was telling those West Virginia coal miners to learn to code; the DNC in Iowa is trying to run their copy of Lotus 1-2-3 and they can't find the driver disk for the dot matrix printer.
 
I'm sure your favorite writers already have their articles written they just need to fill in the blanks as to who benefited. They will have to wait just like the rest of us.

Honest question: What is worse (or more suspicious), 1. don't announce a winner at all until all the votes are 're-counted' or 2. Post results that all point to candidate A winning, but then say, "Nope, after we checked our 'math', candidate B was the real winner."

It's not rocket science. Juts have all precincts post the count. The vote was public and anyone present could check up. No need to centralize results.
 
Anyway, first round voting has Bernie +8% over Pete (29 to 21).


If you cannot even run a caucus, how do you expect Trump to give in when Bernie defeats him in the general elections? Very dangerous games played by the run DNC, public enemy #1.
 
Ban the Iowa Caucus. Or at least move it to the end of the primary schedule.
 
I'm all for rotating the order of states each election.
 
Ban the Iowa Caucus. Or at least move it to the end of the primary schedule.
Iowa should definitely lose the privilege of going first, as well as the privilege of having their own day. Put them in the Super Tuesday pool with a bunch of other States. That way if they screw up it won't matter as much.
 
Yeah, why should such a diverse country put so much weight into something from one of the least diverse states. It just doesn't make sense.
New Hampshire isn't really any better in that regard.
 
imagine being stupid enough to want these people in charge of your health plan

imagine being such a puppet you don’t even realize how far the GOP propaganda machine has their fist up your ass.

Like bloody clock work.
 
So Bernie's campaign has released numbers from 40% of precincts showing he's got 28.6% of delegates to Buttigieg's 25.7%. Buttigieg's campaign has released their own data showing he has won 28% of delegates based off 75% of precincts.

Obviously both sets of numbers are self-serving, but it seems there's general agreement that it's a narrow race between Sanders and Buttigieg.

The impacts the Iowa bounce would have had in either circumstance are dramatic. In 538's model, a narrow Sanders win over Buttigieg would leave the forecast at 48% for Sanders, 24% for Biden, 19% for no-one, and 3% for Buttigieg. A narrow Buttigieg win over Sanders would leave the forecast at 28% for Sanders, 27% for Biden, 26% for no-one, and 15% for Buttigieg.

If those effects are dampened, because results will now be released right before the State of the Union, without the benefit of a whole night of interrupted victory coverage, it hurts the winning candidate tremendously, and helps Biden in all possible scenarios.
 
Yeah, why should such a diverse country put so much weight into something from one of the least diverse states. It just doesn't make sense.
New Hampshire isn't really any better in that regard.

Because they are good bellwether stats.

Having Texas, California, New York etc go first would be pointless/stupid.
 
Actually demographically speaking, they are not. New Hampshire is not representative of any other state, with maybe the exception of Vermont and Maine.
At least from our polling analysis.
Considering that a close to a majority of democrats reside in those three states one of those would more show what a good percentage of the party is thinking.
 
Given the Democratic Party's issue with appeal being concentrated enough already to be a problem with the Electoral College, do you think it would help or hurt to stack one more weight in the selection process in the same ol same ol? Assuming we think this is a weight of meaningful significance. I mean, that would be the only meaningful criteria for the party's selection of order, right?
 
The party won't use a big state first because it would take a lot of suspense out of the process and, short attention span and all.
They want it in the people's eyes as long as possible.
 
I probably need my tinfoil hat here but this tech ****ery with the caucus seems awfully convenient considering who the polls were favoring in the run up last week.
 
The US general election voting system has to change. When your system is worse even than FPTP, it should tell you it is just non democratic.

Basileus disapproves. :lol:
 
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